Thanks DH. Some people are just clueless. I hope he understands why his statement showed him to be clueless so he can get clued in. If you have no patrons pen is not a consideration. Arguing it is is like arguing an umbrella doesn't keep you drier in the rain because it doesn't keep you drier when it isn't raining. That's my point. Thank you for transferring the analogy to BJ for those that are not able to do it themselves.
That Ds probably still thinks that empty tables are relevant to pen discussion. If nobody plays there is no pen because the cut card is never inserted.
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