I go to casino every weekend and stay there two nights and two days. What i want to ask is what you do if u win couple of hundreds or a thousand right after you get there. Do you keep on playing or u stop after you hit your goal. Or you only stop awhile and play again couple of hours later? Do you play second day, or should just stop for this tripe. If i won on the first day then I always lose some or all before i go home. Am i just superstitious
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Mathematically no difference right, thats what i thought too. but 90 percent of time if i won the first day i must lose the second day, is that just i dont have the luck. We APs should only talk about hour and math right?Originally Posted by Bushie
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There are reasons to leave but they are not mathematical. You should consider heat along with other aspects that affect long term play. For example you don't want to win too much or stay too long for the sake of your future at the casino. If you win a lot but not as much as their tolerance and continue play two things are likely. One you seem to be familiar with, which is giving money back to the casino. The other is you will crush a shoe so when that is added to what you have already won your win is larger than you would like them to see. Both are bad for you in one way or another. When faced with this situation you may want to go to a different casino.
The same can be said about being down significantly. You are likely to either continue to lose or make back what you lost and show a profit. The latter to a casino looks very bad. You didn't win much but the casino views it as a big win. It is better to book a small loss and leave showing happiness that you only lost X instead of 2X to 4X. The former is obviously not good for you.
The reasons for these decisions are not what you are thinking but rather heat related and longevity related.
Another thing to consider is if you are a professional AP that needs the winnings. It is better to pay your bills with winnings than keep playing and possibly lose BR to both the casino and your bills. This is a BR management decision. Pros have to figure expenses into their game plan but, unlike recreational players, expenses also include paying their bills that aren't covered by some other income.
There are other things but I think I illustrated what you need to know. That is that it is voodoo to leave because you think history will repeat itself. After all, it is all one big session. But factors that you must manage as an AP (heat, longevity, BR management, etc) can indicate it is time to move on. When that happens move on. If you happen to be ahead when that happens it is all the better.
A ploppy gambler making a 2 day stay at a casino doesn't stop when they win after walking in the door. They are playing on "house money" and almost always will get more greedy and try to win more. IMO getting a large win early then immediately stopping is more suspicious. If you are a hit a run player this a good strategy, get in and out and try to he forgotten. If your plan is to be there a while then what else are you going to do if you just stop playing?
Keep playing until you have a legitimate reason to stop, like getting actual heat or scutiny. Be mindful of how your play looks to the casino? There are periods of time where the cards will fall in such a way that allow your bets to increase and decrease in a way where you don't look like you are counting. Other shoes will have you taking insurance with "bad hands" and making more plays that are more indicative of counting. Be cognizant of how your play appears if you were to be observing it. Adjust if need be.
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Recreational players often quit and preserve a winning trip because the drive/ flight back home is more pleasant. If I go on a 3 day trip with, say $200 in expenses and consider a $1000 as a figure I would be satisfied with, then assuming I am up $2k, I would put away the $1000 and play aggressively with the rest. Sometimes, it's lost, sometimes it ends up with even more. However, I am assured of a winning trip and that is important to me.
At local casinos, I always quit if I am ahead $200-$800 because I want to continue to be welcome there.
I suppose it would help to know what stakes you play. My real question though is are you even playing with an edge? If not, then this topic is irrelevant.I go to casino every weekend and stay there two nights and two days. What i want to ask is what you do if u win couple of hundreds or a thousand right after you get there. Do you keep on playing or u stop after you hit your goal. Or you only stop awhile and play again couple of hours later? Do you play second day, or should just stop for this tripe. If i won on the first day then I always lose some or all before i go home. Am i just superstitious
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You need to know the threshold for the casino. In every casino there is a certain number at which the pit suppose to notify higher up, generally the pit boss or shift manager.
In most casinos, the pit is required to notify the shift manager for anyone winning $10,000 in one shift. Some places have it at 5k and I even found out one casino had it at 1K. Some have a threshold for the visit. If you go there every week, you should get to know your customer. Also, do not go there every week. They will take your action better if you go less frequently.
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