Beyond Counting Exhibit CAA by James Grosjean

**Iwantmoney** · 05-25-2018, 02:00 AM

I have the book AND am a 3CP poker player I do not get anywhere you get 14% unless perhaps you managed to see two hole cards?

**James989** · 05-25-2018, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by Iwantmoney

I have the book AND am a 3CP poker player I do not get anywhere you get 14% unless perhaps you managed to see two hole cards?

You can't get that info from the book.

I have done my own analysis/simulations, player can get 14% under certain scenarios . . .

**Three** · 05-25-2018, 08:02 AM

Not smart to advertise that in a forum read by casino execs. We are seeing a lot of posts by people trying to look smart that don't seem to be considering who will be reading their posts. Top APs know they are proving themselves to be extremely stupid. Don't feel bad. I had to delete thousands of my best posts because I did the same thing. A lesson hard learned: It is better to be thought of as stupid, than to prove you are stupid by showing how smart you are. I say that because I saw conditions change for the worse in reaction to my posts. Since then, I have periodically purposely posted things to make me look stupid. I think that was like trying to keep the animals in the barn by closing the barn door after the animals have left. Having Don call me out was probably the best gambits for that. I hope he didn't have a coronary helping me look stupid.

**ZenMaster_Flash** · 05-25-2018, 08:23 AM

Three,

James 989 did not state anything that alerts a(ny) casino that there is 14% of ... ?

**refinery** · 05-25-2018, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash

Three,

James 989 did not state anything that alerts a(ny) casino that there is 14% of ... ?

He didn't post anything sensitive.

What he said is the equivalent of "I have discovered a truly remarkable way to get 14% advantage in three card poker, which this message board is too small to contain".

**BigJer** · 05-25-2018, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by James989

3 card poker alone already help me to win more than 80k . . .and still winning !

Tips : when other player fold their hand(lower than Q32), you can .......... and you can have ev more than 14% ! LOL

Good man! (Girls are men too.) I guess my point being you can also get all the books on BJ, TCP, Baccarat, etc. and save a lot of money.

**refinery** · 05-25-2018, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by Three

And you can bet any casino where they see someone buying hands from other players on certain rounds in 3CP is checking that dealer for being weak. No he didn't reveal anything to be concerned about. He said I can gain a 14% edge on weak dealers. That shouldn't get any casinos checking every dealer they have now should it. Think about what you are posting before posting. I haven't burned any plays but I have seen conditions worsen based on my posts and I try to be pretty vague about posting advanced info. Of course that doesn't stop some idiot from spelling it out directly right after that post.

Just stop it, Three. Learn the hole rule.

**Three** · 05-25-2018, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by therefinery

Just stop it, Three. Learn the hole rule.

Thank you for seeing my example of the point. Now delete your post and I will delete all my sensitive posts. Unfortunately the original problem doesn't seem to want to delete the worst sensitive posts.

**Dbs6582** · 05-25-2018, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by Three

Not smart to advertise that in a forum read by casino execs. We are seeing a lot of posts by people trying to look smart that don't seem to be considering who will be reading their posts.

Three, are you serious? Do you really think casinos execs are spending their time on bj forums? You’re going to have to trust me on this. They have a life and have much more important things to worry about then what’s the latest AP skill. Their biggest worry is probably how to compete against the new casino opening up down the block or where to buy their new multimillion dollar Mansion.

**Three** · 05-25-2018, 11:01 AM

Perhaps execs wasn't the right job title. But suits on up.

**scroogemcduck** · 05-25-2018, 12:07 PM

The first AP stuff I ever read was the entirety of Elliot Jacobson's blog. Then I bought ExCAA for 4k. Money well spent. Only half of it overlaps.

**BoSox** · 05-25-2018, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by Dbs6582

Three, are you serious? Do you really think casinos execs are spending their time on bj forums? You’re going to have to trust me on this.

Where else are dumb casino suits going to find better information than these boards? If nothing at all, at least they find out when they are making mistakes.

**ShipTheCookies** · 05-25-2018, 02:22 PM

There are casino suits and higher all over these boards. Take that Zcore dude from WoV for example. You're not hiding anything from them. Some are even AP's themselves. That said, it's still best to keep new, innovative stuff on the down low.