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    Quote Originally Posted by hitthat16 View Post
    My advice is to start slow and practice a lot. Memorize the basic strategy for your rule set cold. If I wake you up at night holding a knife to your throat and say “when do you split nines?” you need to know the correct answer right away. I know that sounds morbid but that’s how important basic strategy is.
    How about a situation where you wake up ZeeBabar at night with an ice cream cone in your hand and give him the same question. What would you do when he answers with this response, depends upon how I am doing, and also how much is in the circle? I hope you would have shoved it down his drawers.
    Last edited by BoSox; 05-03-2018 at 01:26 PM.

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    Thank You fellow APers for your contribution!
    I already have basic strategy down stone cold(due to gambling for a long period time), I will ZeeB wont visit the casino for a month (very easy) and start to attempt to master card counting!
    Once I have mastered card counting I will visit the casino and try with 1-2 betting ramp just to get a feel and practice in real situation.
    and thanks CC for his kind contribution!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    How about a situation where you wake up ZeeBabar at night with an ice cream cone in your hand and give him the same question. What would you do when he answers with this response, depends upon how I am doing, and also how much is in the circle? I hope you would have shoved it down his drawers.
    Bosox, why are you bringing me into this?

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    Just wondering if anyone has tried playing with daily stop loss limits?
    will it reduce the bad variance swings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    Bosox, why are you bringing me into this?
    You earned the reputation over an extended period of time. You know I hit the nail right on the head with the post. Basic strategy with you always starts with it depends, on dozens of conflicting thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gengagod View Post
    Just wondering if anyone has tried playing with daily stop loss limits?
    will it reduce the bad variance swings?
    No. Artificial stopping points have no effect on streaks, variance, or you long term results.

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    Thought so GB. But I thought if you let your winners run and cut losers shouldnt it be beneficial?
    After mastering the Hi-Lo count is there any other methods of increasing EV?

    edit: or even better - increase bet when winning and reduce bet size during losses (kelly?)
    Last edited by gengagod; 05-04-2018 at 06:34 AM.

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    These ideas depend on the fallacy that streaks are likely to continue if you stay at the same table and are likely to be broken if you leave. This is not true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gengagod View Post
    Thought so GB. But I thought if you let your winners run and cut losers shouldnt it be beneficial?
    The problem with trend betting is that you do not know when it starts, or when it will end.

    Quote Originally Posted by gengagod View Post
    After mastering the Hi-Lo count is there any other methods of increasing EV?
    Stealth said it very well, in post #8. I would start there.

    Quote Originally Posted by gengagod View Post
    edit: or even better - increase bet when winning and reduce bet size during losses (kelly?)
    Please go back to post #8, it's is very good advice.

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    Hello again guys, I have trained and got very fast at counting cards! I tried to go to casino playing mins but I noticed some shoes could go to rc of +20 really fast even though it is a 6 D BJ does it mean if the RC is +20 and with 5 deck left = TC +4? Same probabilty of winning the hand as 1 deck TC +4? Many Thanks

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    generally speaking yes , but at 1 deck it is obviously superior by a decent amount. not due to floating advantage but it is more accurate after the 2 decks . because of Hi lo's B.C. doesn't pick up until after 2 decks out of 6 decks.
    Last edited by stopgambling; 05-09-2018 at 01:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gengagod View Post
    I tried to go to casino playing mins but I noticed some shoes could go to rc of +20 really fast even though it is a 6 D BJ does it mean if the RC is +20 and with 5 deck left = TC +4? Same probabilty of winning the hand as 1 deck TC +4? Many Thanks
    Your sim equates all TC +4 true counts and bets them all at their collective average. There is a small degree of floating advantage in your question but I like the increased certainty of TC +4 with fewer cards left. If BJ was a 1 card removed event it would make no difference. But BJ deals two cards to each player and often requires several more cards dealt to resolve the hand. These multiple card effects can act to increase your edge. For example with 5 decks left you double 11v5, getting a low card doesn't increase the dealers bust chances much but with 1 deck left it increases the bust chances a lot more. Think of it like having 4 more white marbles than black marbles in a bag containing 50 marbles (27 white marbles and 23 black marbles) versus having 20 more white marrbles than black marbles in a bag containing 250 marbles (135 white and 115 black). The odds of pulling a white or black marble is the same, but the odds of pulling a white or black marble after 1 marble is removed is not the same. Of course I eliminate neutral cards here, but it serves to demonstrate the point. If you double 11v5 and get a low card the deck is now 55.1% high card for the dealer to draw from. If there were 5 decks left and I draw a low card the changes of the dealer drawing a high is 54.2%. Obviously the certainty of the former is better.

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    Three,

    ......... A good idea is to re_write your post #25,
    ........Remember that you are speaking to a 'newbie'.

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