Traveling the country / minimizing expenses

[RCJH]

You're missing my point. I can understand the value something (product or activity) is bringing to someone while not wanting it in my town or community. Drag racing adds value to people that like drag racing. That doesn't mean I want a drag racing track in my town. I could give you many other examples of something that adds value to a certain group of people that I think should be legal that I wouldn't want in my town. Why is that concept so hard for you to understand?

As far as all the articles you posted about the devastation casinos can bring to people and community, I agree. Did you read any of my posts? I've said all along a casino can destroy a person's life. Alcohol can do the same thing. That's why AA chapters are in almost every city in America. I know people who's lives who have been ruined by alcohol. Yes, gambling and alcohol can ruin someone's life if they don't do it responsibly. I think everybody would agree with that. Does this mean these things should be outlawed? If they are legal, then shouldn't a company be able to sell as much of these products as the public wants?

The difference is that Budweiser doesn't advertise at AA meetings. Casinos prey on the poor and hopeless. They offer free rides from senior centers, and housing projects. Big tobacco used to advertise to kids, going so far as to use cartoon characters. They have stopped.

Not casinos. They are greedy beyond measure. They entice and lure those easily addicted, and bar you if you show a modicum of intelligence.

[RCJH]

My sentiment on this topic is easily summarized this way. If I don't take the girl's dough, another will(casino). And isn't that why I entered the casino? So if you notice yourself feeling guilty about winning, you're a sucker.

Nah, I don't feel guilty about winning. I feel bad not saying "the count is -2. You are at a serious disadvantage, and will probably lose a lot on this shoe. Maybe you should try another table."

To be fair, I encourage ass hats to bet more and spread during negative counts, to "mix up the cards" (maybe try three hands, since one isn't working..) I'm not a saint.

[Freightman]

To be fair, I encourage ass hats to bet more and spread during negative counts, to "mix up the cards" (maybe try three hands, since one isn't working..) I'm not a saint.

I only pull that shit if the douche bag is a real asshole. Think I told a guy once he should split 10's in a minus count - versus 8 or 9. It was a minus count, and it ate a lot of cards. Years ago.

[Dbs6582]

Ustonzen, oops, I meant Dbs6582
As usual, you purposely interpet out of context. In addition to the standard disclaimers pertaining to most your opinions, I refer vehemently to paragraph 2.

I can cite numerous examples, but, I'll restrain myself and suggest only 3, involving 3 seperate stores.

General Manager Dirty Dingus Magee, when informed that patron x, a warehouse worker, was blowing several hundreds of dollars a day over an e tended 3 weeks, which he already knew, declined to inform his patron if using game sense to control his losses. He exclaimed - how am I to know where he gets his money from - which means, I really don't give a shit if we break him or not.

A bookkeeper, patron b, lost about 200k over a 2-3 month period. I guarantee the money didn't come from her savings account. Casino has seen this scenario multiple times.

Patron C, previously under self exclusion, a situation known by the casino blew 250k over 1 week. When the carnage was over, patron c started crying, exclaims no that he had lost everything. Casino didn't give a shit.

I'm aware if a much larger situation of known criminal activity supporting a huge gambling addiction. I'm reluctant to post details, as that could could point a finger in my direction.

I am humored how casino morals and ethics with regards to behaviour, declines in proportion to the marks pocket book.

Your overall defence of casino morals and ethics makes me want to puke.

Okay, once again you're painting a broad brush on a whole industry by given isolated examples. Btw, you do this in bj disagreements too. You alway make up some hypothetical situation where a dealer or player gets such and such cards. You don't look at a situation in a larger context as a math problem.

This may come as a surprise to you but there are bad apples in every industry. That's why we have laws. Did I mention we are a nation of laws? Do you remember what happened to Enron? They are no longer operating. Our government shut them down and put many of their top level people in jail. Like with all industries, I'm sure their are some casinos that operate outside the law, on the edges of the law and there are ones that are very upstanding and operate within the law. I am only defending the casinos that are operating within the law. I hope that doesn't make you puke.

If a casino is breaking a law, you should report it to get them shut down and/or get someone thrown in jail. If you know something illegal is going on and you look away, that's on you.

Btw, are you one of those that blames the banks when they foreclose on a house because a person can't pay their mortgage? Blame the landlord for evicting someone when they don't pay their rent? Are you one of those that blames businesses for desicions made by individuals?

Here's a novel concept you've probably never thought about. With freedom comes responsibility!

[Freightman]

Okay, once again you're painting a broad brush on a whole industry by given isolated examples. Btw, you do this in bj disagreements too. You alway make up some hypothetical situation where a dealer or player gets such and such cards. You don't look at a situation in a larger context as a math problem.

This may come as a surprise to you but there are bad apples in every industry. That's why we have laws. Did I mention we are a nation of laws? Do you remember what happened to Enron? They are no longer operating. Our government shut them down and put many of their top level people in jail. Like with all industries, I'm sure their are some casinos that operate outside the law, on the edges of the law and there are ones that are very upstanding and operate within the law. I am only defending the casinos that are operating within the law. I hope that doesn't make you puke.

If a casino is breaking a law, you should report it to get them shut down and/or get someone thrown in jail. If you know something illegal is going on and you look away, that's on you.

Btw, are you one of those that blames the banks when they foreclose on a house because a person can't pay their mortgage? Blame the landlord for evicting someone when they don't pay their rent? Are you one of those that blames businesses for desicions made by individuals?

Here's a novel concept you've probably never thought about. With freedom comes responsibility!

Ustonzen
The purpose of debate is.....debate - not, as previously commented on by me, to you - a circular reference of endless iterations - endless, useless trivia.

So, to satisfy your mania, might I suggest you search a round room, and pee in the corner. Hopefully, that will keep you occupied and titilated. You are not worthy of response.

[ZeeBabar]

Okay, once again you're painting a broad brush on a whole industry by given isolated examples. Btw, you do this in bj disagreements too. You alway make up some hypothetical situation where a dealer or player gets such and such cards. You don't look at a situation in a larger context as a math problem.

This may come as a surprise to you but there are bad apples in every industry. That's why we have laws. Did I mention we are a nation of laws? Do you remember what happened to Enron? They are no longer operating. Our government shut them down and put many of their top level people in jail. Like with all industries, I'm sure their are some casinos that operate outside the law, on the edges of the law and there are ones that are very upstanding and operate within the law. I am only defending the casinos that are operating within the law. I hope that doesn't make you puke.

If a casino is breaking a law, you should report it to get them shut down and/or get someone thrown in jail. If you know something illegal is going on and you look away, that's on you.

Btw, are you one of those that blames the banks when they foreclose on a house because a person can't pay their mortgage? Blame the landlord for evicting someone when they don't pay their rent? Are you one of those that blames businesses for desicions made by individuals?

Here's a novel concept you've probably never thought about. With freedom comes responsibility!

It's quite funny reading about a "nation of laws". Shut down Enron but Volkswagon, Audi, Wall Street Bankers, O J Simpson, whole lot of dead and jailed African Americans.....

Reasons for Norm to shut this thread down.

[Norm]

Damn I'm sick of this childish, prattle.