UK Player

[BJStorm]

I used to frequent casinos a lot, playing BJ but not for years. Never really won though. I have BS nailed and am looking for a first count to learn plus other advice people want to throw at me.

I’ve read back on 100s of posts- interesting stuff. I’ve hammered casinos for 30k in a few days before but never felt heat. Would that be because I’m not playing a proper system.
Oh yeah. I lost it all back over a few months as a ploppy.

I’ll have 10k for a BR in a couple of months so getting ready to try again.

Just added- it’s either 6D or a CSM. 6D I used to get opened whenever I asked and play on my own. £10 min. Most people seem to prefer the CSM £2 min for some reason

[Three]

I’ve read back on 100s of posts- interesting stuff. I’ve hammered casinos for 30k in a few days before but never felt heat. Would that be because I’m not playing a proper system.
Oh yeah. I lost it all back over a few months as a ploppy.

The casinos probably assessed your game and figured as long as they kept you coming back they would get the money back and then some.

[BJStorm]

Figured that myself. That’s why I’m learning to count now instead of going hell for leather.
Seems different in UK as all casinos are members only too.

[BoSox]

BJStorm, it is very important that you have the correct basic strategy down perfect for the rules you will be playing against, there are different correct variations based on the rules you will be playing. The rules of the game also dictate what the upfront house advantage over the basic strategist will be, and what the player is up against. You need to know this because there are large differences in house rule sets depending on locations everywhere. I do not know what the situation is in the UK.

I have BS nailed and am looking for a first count to learn plus other advice people want to throw at me.

I am going to start here and say if the house upfront advantage is just too strong, to begin with, do not play that game period. What good is learning "any type of first count" a counting system if the rules you are playing against are so bad that the best scenario possible is breaking even? This board has debated the use of various counting systems far too long now, and it is a rather pointless debate if we do not know just what the players are up against while starting out.

[BJStorm]

I get you. Dealer stands on s17. Can split any pair incl mixed 10s. And split again. One card only on split aces. Can double anything.

[Three]

Can double anything.

I assume you mean any 2 cards.

[CountinCanadian]

Learn hi-lo

[BJStorm]

Will have a luck. Thanks.
Not in a major hurry to hit the casinos again so want To be prepared.
Could anyone recommend any software for practicing?
Thanks.

[UK-21]

Read lots . . . and learn to use a spreadsheet. Not wanting to do Norm out of a sale, but as the UK ruleset is pretty standard across most houses of chance in the country (6 decks, S17, DoA, DAS, RSA, EM on a snapper) there's little benefit in purchasing a piece of software that can do the sums on a wide variety of rulesets that you're never going to play (unless you're planning to travel to the States). The key to doing the sums yourself (using a spreadsheet) is the frequencies at which the different true counts occur. If my memory serves me right, all of this data is provided in Wong's PBJ and Don Schlesinger's BJA (third edition now) - pick up a copy of both if you don't already have them.

The biggest issue you'll face in your endeavours is finding casinos in the UK that offer shoe dealt games, and of course staying under the radar. In the not-too-distant past I've corresponded with two gents who visited London from the US to play BJ and both were busted after just one session due to being suspected counters; one was given a complimentary membership to one place as a visitor to the UK on one evening, and returned the following evening (or it might have been the one after) to find it had been suspended and he had become persona non grata.

Good luck.

[BJStorm]

Cheers UK-21.
The 4 casinos near me all have shoe games over £10 so that’s not a problem.
I’ll be sticking to UK for a while. I have a national role for work so can check out a few places.
I’ll get on with the reading ASAP.
I’ll post a new thread in a few months after I’ve got some hours under my belt.

Cheers

[ZenMaster_Flash]

"... finding casinos in the UK that offer shoe dealt games"

What are you saying?

I have played in the UK

ALL BJ games are shoe games.

No exceptions.

[Freightman]

What are you saying?

I have played in the UK

ALL BJ games are shoe games.

No exceptions.

He's referring to CSM's.

[UK-21]

What are you saying?

I have played in the UK

ALL BJ games are shoe games.

No exceptions.

You're wrong. I live here. The vast majority of BJ games in the UK now are dealt from CSMs. There are exceptions of course, but outside of the Capital they are few, and very far, between.