POLL: Should the ability to delete posts be time-limited?

**Member Name Hidden** · 03-31-2018, 09:36 AM

Moses makes high double-digit posts per day, yet his post count doesn't go up. He's deleted over 10K of his posts.

Although he says little of value, routinely deleting posts interferes with the flow of ideas in threads.

Norm, my guess is you can set a time limit on the deletion (and editing) of posts. How about 24 hours?

**Freightman** · 03-31-2018, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by Member Name Hidden

Moses makes high double-digit posts per day, yet his post count doesn't go up. He's deleted over 10K of his posts.

Although he says little of value, routinely deleting posts interferes with the flow of ideas in threads.

Norm, my guess is you can set a time limit on the deletion (and editing) of posts. How about 24 hours?

Think I said Just Yesterday, taking cheap shots anonymously is a sign if a gutless wonder. Wonder if I as referring to the same Gutless wonder.

Show some balls, and post the poll, if you must, under your real handle.

**thenarrowpath** · 03-31-2018, 09:43 AM

No, I think the forum should be as unregulated as possible. Norm doesn't need to hold our hands or provide arbitrary rules. We're all adults, who cares if he deletes his posts? That's his prerogative.

**refinery** · 03-31-2018, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by thenarrowpath

No, I think the forum should be as unregulated as possible. Norm doesn't need to hold our hands or provide arbitrary rules. We're all adults, who cares if he deletes his posts? That's his prerogative.

Deleting posts isn't a typical usage pattern. People who wrote internet forum software didn't anticipate anyone trying to do this because it's so completely absurd. There should be a time limit on deleting posts.

**Three** · 03-31-2018, 09:49 AM

A post is the posters intellectual property. Only moderators or the poster should be able to delete posts. There should be no time limit. I think Norm views it like he does copyrights. He gets twitchy about posts copied from other sites without the permission of the poster.

**Three** · 03-31-2018, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by therefinery

Deleting posts isn't a typical usage pattern. People who wrote internet forum software didn't anticipate anyone trying to do this because it's so completely absurd. There should be a time limit on deleting posts.

I know you know how to make sure deleting a post will not make it unable to be viewed.

**moses** · 03-31-2018, 09:56 AM

I have not deleted one post since Norm said to stop. How is Hidden Name putting you in jeapoardy with the casino as T3 stated? It appears you're afraid of me?

Certain people think they should be running the forum. This is fine, I guess. But Norm needs to let us know who is in charge so we can decide for ourselves whether we choose to support you or not. I thought it was Norm and only Norm. No?

The bigger issue is multiple names. The Refinery, RCJH, ZenMaster Flash. UstonZen to name a few. Don't take my word for it. Cover the Avatar and read the one line of thought process for yourself. It's absolutely pathetic and something no one would want to be part of. So thus the deletion of posts.

Recently, it was for a more streamlined process. Rather than the conversation leading up to the end result, just the end result was enough. If Freighter, for instance, copies and replies to my post, then I delete my post so readers don't have to pour through pages of duplication.

Personally, I will think very hard about Norm's directive before I post...now that he said something. From now until eternity is a long time. My thoughts today may not be the same as they were 5 years ago or 5 years from now. Plus lurkers outnumber posters by 10 to 1.

**refinery** · 03-31-2018, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by Three

I know you know how to make sure deleting a post will not make it unable to be viewed.

My apologies. The meaning of my post wasn't clear and was worded poorly. I'll clean it up later.

**Stealth** · 03-31-2018, 10:11 AM

What does any of this have to do with anything of value?

**Three** · 03-31-2018, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by moses

he bigger issue is multiple names. The Refinery, RCJH, ZenMaster Flash. UstonZen to name a few. Don't take my word for it. Cover the Avatar and read the one line of thought process for yourself. It's absolutely pathetic and something no one would want to be part of. So thus the deletion of posts.

I have met a few of these posters and can tell you they look nothing like each other. What you are likely seeing is common styles of AP observing the same things in a casino. Like someone using a simple system will never see the in the casino benefits of a complex system. He will likely believe they don't exist. Posters using the same complex system will see the same kinds of things in the casino. I am not talking about the cards. I a talking about the way the employees deal with you.

**moses** · 03-31-2018, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Three

I am not talking about the cards. I a talking about the way the employees deal with you.

When I walk into a casino or anywhere for that matter, it's like my mind is constantly taking a snapshot of everything around me. As you know, T3, many people are blissfully unaware of the world going right on by them. But, for me and you, it always the question. What's wrong with this picture?

To add to what you said, "it's not always who is watching you but if you are aware of who is watching others (and why)." Trust me, it's quite often more than just the EITS or employees.

But in this case. There is definately something wrong with the picture. The phrases, the vocabulary, the temperment is all the same. Blue Oyster Cult.
For example, one member I corresponded with privately stated he had started a thread since a certain date. I look it up an he never started a thread on that date. However, another member I'd suspected was him had started his last thread EXACTLY on that date.

Originally Posted by SpikeBJ

Situational awareness. Common sense for safe people.

With the volume turned up in our environment. We are playing blackjack in a casino where top notch players are not welcome. Not Bingo in a church where everyone is welcome.

Originally Posted by Stealth

What does any of this have to do with anything of value?

If you're real nice Stealth. Maybe Hidden Member Name will do a Poll on How many Polls he should do?

Excellent post by Midwest Player below:

Originally Posted by Member Name Hidden

Also can't create polls (or go back and edit POLL out of the title).

O what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.

**SpikeBJ** · 03-31-2018, 10:34 AM

Situational awareness. Common sense for safe people.

**Midwest Player** · 03-31-2018, 12:26 PM

Where is the poll? You have to include the poll when making a poll post.

Anyway, I'm strongly against limiting the ability to delete or edit posts. I have already made posts that reveal to much identifying information about me, a casino, or a promotion. Days or even weeks later I've had second thoughts about the post and ended up editing or deleting it.

Also I've had requests from other posters to edit or delete posts that I considered harmless, but they were concerned about. I always like to honor such requests.

One thing I noticed about "Member Name Hidden" posts is there is no ability to edit or delete them. If you make a post you should be able to edit or delete it.

By the way, BJ21 limits the time to edit a post to 24 hours which I don't like. With their old software you could always delete a post.