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    Shuffle tracking

    Hi.
    First post here.
    Ive been counting for several years and Ive also become quite proficient in shuffle tracking.
    Some months ago my local casino (Im in south america) changed to a 2 pass shuffle.
    First pass is a stepladder, second R&R.
    Three plugs.
    3 decks cutoff, sometimes 2.5.
    Does anybody have any experience tracking this kind of shuffle?
    Is best half the best I should aim for?
    Theres a player (I think he also posts here) that travels to play at this casino and its just unbelievable what he does with the shuffle.
    The guy starts every single shoe with max bets out and every time the count plumits.
    Unfortunately he is not very open to sharing with me, but seeing him play made me realize that a 2 pass shuffle can still be very vulnerable.
    Id really appreciate any insight on the matter.

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    Send me a private message Valen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fringe View Post
    Send me a private message Valen
    It seems I cant send private messages, maybe because my user is new.
    Maybe I can send you an email instead?

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    Gramazeka, do you have any input?
    Reading through the archives it seems to me you are an expert on the matter.

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    1.I almost do not render assistance to unknown people on the forum. 2.The casinos of South America are in the zone of interest of my friend on the forum "bjarg".In order to avoid unnecessary competition I will inform him about the appearance of you on the forum and maybe he will contact you.
    "Don't Cast Your Pearls Before Swine" (Jesus)

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    This is a very interesting subject, i regret not so many people are interesting, and i also regret than experts and elites in schuffle tracking dont share their knowledges, but of course its normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fringe View Post
    Send me a private message Valen
    LoL

    Nice work Valen. Nobody should be answering that in the open forum.

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    Ok gramazeka, I know him also and he wont help me.
    Three, this is not 2005.
    Shuffle tracking has been openly discussed and published about for years.
    But I understand people not wanting to share.
    Maybe if in exchange I offer information about casinos with one pass shuffles, high limits and a lot of tolerance to big spreads?
    Any takers?

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    valen
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    .........What country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post

    valen
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    .........What country?
    Hello.
    Thank you, but Im not interested in your help.
    This may be my first post but Im a long time lurker and I know for a fact you have zero knowledge on shuffle tracking.
    I will share information with somebody that can help me.

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    The next time, after meeting this good player at the table in blackjack, give him my advice, let him begin to adjust the entry point to the attack zone. He does not need to put the maximum stakes at the beginning of the shoes . Each new shuffle attack zone should be changed. For example, cut to the top of 26 unnecessary cards and then start an attack. This will add to it longevity. It is also not necessary to put the same amount of bets on different hands. This will be the next step in improving his skills ))

    P.s. I know your player ))
    Last edited by Gramazeka; 03-11-2018 at 04:32 PM.
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    Heat is not a problem here.
    No need to camouflage.
    Casinos know perfectly well what we do but they cant do anything to stop it.

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