I have ben going through threads starting at the beginning days of the forum. What I have found is hardly any threads needed to be closed. Now threads are closed regularly. I have one comment. It is a group effort to get a thread closed. Everyone, including me, should work to do better at not causing threads to be closed. There should be no reason for that to happen. I could explain further, but hopefully I don't have to.
I ran Don's Domain for several years. Such asinine behavior didn't exist for two main reasons: 1) adults contributed to the site, not children; and 2) there was no such thing as freedom of speech. If your post was moronic, I took it down. If the offensive behavior persisted, I took YOU down. And yes, I was the one who decided what was or wasn't moronic.
Members have to decide whether they want a quality site with quality posts, or whether they want to socialize, tell sophomoric, scatological "jokes," that aren't remotely funny, and want to actually discuss blackjack about 25% of the time. If the latter, I'd just shut the site down and tell the members to run their own site.
It's interesting to note that, during the time DD ran, I almost NEVER had to take a post down or ban anyone, because the rules were stated upfront, and you knew ahead of time that if you didn't follow them, you were toast. So, people followed them. Simple, no? A dictatorship? Of sorts. But the site ran like molasses.
Different times. The participants then were some of the greatest names in the history of the game. And, the people came for serious discussions about the game and to rub elbows with legends; just look at the archives. The majority of the people here have the self-control of two-year-olds.
Finally, I don't blame Norm. He set up the framework for a great site and polices it in a manner of speaking. But he doesn't have the time or inclination to be more aggressive and restrictive concerning the quality and nature of the posts. Self-policing would help immensely, but it's hard to expect that from children.
Don
I do blame Norm, to a degree. He stepped up with his technical knowledge and reputation in the BJ community to start this forum when bjinfo closed and a void was created. If Norm doesn't have the time to moderate this forum, then he needs to put one or more in that position, or just close it down. Bjinfo is back now, so is this forum really necessary?Originally Posted by DSchles
For many years, BJ21 had (and has) virtually no moderation because the users put idiots and troublemakers in their place. I can count on one hand the number of people who were backed off there in the last 10 years (and two of them are here). Norm's policy of "no personal attacks" limits self-policing.
Norm has remained silent on my suggestion of a 5 post/day limit. Suggestions for keeping this forum alive and getting it back on track:
1. Find a few responsible people willing to be active moderators.
2. Set up a subforum for OT banter, similar to BJ21's Politics subforum. I choose not to participate in that subforum because it doesn't interest me and that's not why I'm there. However, it does keep all the off-topic stuff in one place.
Mr. Perfect
Thank you for your comments. I am one of those "idiots" of whom you speak.
As memory serves, most if my battles revolved around a certain social misfit anarchist, who routinely told people to fuck off, eat shit and die, tell people to go jerk off in fields, counsel people to defame, encourage etc etc etc. This individual, and you are as very aware if his handle, was described to me by board admin, as a respected high stakes pro. Don't recall him being backed off so to speak.
Of course, there was also the sexual deviant describing individual, skulking in the middle of the night posting and deleting. prominent on Jew bashing, quoting absolutely racist propaganda to support his own twisted viewpoint. This individual, was also described to me, by board admin, as a respected high stakes pro. Don't think he he was backed off either.
And let's not forget that other Jew bashing asshole from across the pond, you know the author.
So, do me a favour, and get off of your high horse. Thank you.
I didn't mention any names in my post nor did I call anyone an idiot. I don't understand why you decided to identify yourself as one of those select few backed off from BJ21, but if the shoe fits... Yes, I know exactly who you mean regarding your war. However, I have no idea who you refer to as the deviant, yada yada.
This forum has devolved to the point where it's worthless. If there is a BJ pearl posted, it's quickly swallowed up by hundreds of OT posts. So not only will I get off my high horse, but I'll exit the arena. I've taken leave from here before and I think it's time to do it again. AMF.
You dont know a damn thing about me. i tell you what i want you to hear. Stop worrying about it. You chose me this time and others. So deal with it. I wouldnt have posted in Las Vegas thread if not for the fact you pissed me off. Also, you like to think you do, but you dont know how often I post. In the last 100 threads, I posted in 19 threads.
Hmmm. Sounds like you want to shut me up? Look deep inside junior. I don't think you've got the nuts. However, I do think you are nuts.
Why is a guy so magnanimous as you at the table so worried about this minor stuff? Im in a casino nearly everyday. Will be again in about 3 minutes. Casino rule. If you are not going to do something then dont call me out. You're a fraud and a phony with so many holes you continue to expose. Normally, I wouldnt care. But you saw fit to sit in judgement and try to expose me. Bad. Baaaad move.Again you quit. Oh MY GOD!!! NOOO!!! Not the ignore list! What a fucking moron. Tell you what big mouth. If you ever question what you think you are about. It aint much. Look me up. I let it go in the past. Not over this time. Moo. Your posts are self serving. It always comes out in the wash.
You are not what you say you are. C'mon, you think people were born yesterday? The troubling part is your bold face lies might get an innocent believer of them hurt someday. Casinos dont need to worry about 86ing your narrow ass 100 times a year. There are forces to handle you that you dont even know about. You would know about them if you were speaking the truth. So get back on your tractor Jethro and stay there.
A guy just has to flash his cash today and tell a dealer he just won $9k on a poker machine. Yet, there was no commotion. He was just trying to get in her pants. Now I see this and don't really care. But there were at least 3 guys in the casino that day, I know personally that would care. They'd rob him, beat his ass, and give it about much thought as eating lunch. But a pompous dumbass like you. They'd fuck you up but good.
So if you're Mr Bigshot. You would've encounted at least one of those guys by now with all your travels and the money your claim to carry.
What threat? Im just saying when he climbs off his tractor. I dont think he really has much game or bets big. He is a forum wannabe - look at moo.
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This is a consequence of these events-
https://www.blackjackinfo.com/commun...problem.55838/
"Don't Cast Your Pearls Before Swine" (Jesus)
Everyone knows exactly how a forum should be run. But, everyone has a different view. The simple fact is that without a certain amount of banter, forums die.
"I don't think outside the box; I think of what I can do with the box." - Henri Matisse
..on the other hand, I am absolutely clueless as to how a forum should be run. The old saying "don't tell me, I don't wanna know!" I know what I like and more importantly, I know what I don't like. Oreo's and milk. Pizza and beer. Definately not Oreo's and beer or pizza with milk.
By comparison, your features and options greatly exceed the other forums. In short, it presents a far easier way to communicate, express opinion, and remember. Ironic, sometimes the good results in the bad.
My brief glimpse at other sights are several very short threads or again, a select few that go on and on, to point where it's too labor intensive to bother with. Unless one really enjoys reading.
I'm not sure about that whole 2 year old and childish thing. I know a 10 year old that is very well schooled is many facets of life. But man, what a sense of humor that kid has which is basically a spin on the adults. Yes, we can bore the shit out of each other constantly debating the thresholds and "what if's" in a game of cards played by people. Or we can have some fun and learn to excel and win in a game of people played with cards.
Sir Norm, has a unique way of offering both but mixing together as well. However, just a suggestion. Based on my research there are some threads that could be B52'ed and no one would care or know the difference. However, a newbie doing research is going to have some WTF moments.
After deleting over 6K posts, I now delete everyday. It's like spring cleaning or going through your garage. There was some value packed away in boxes.
Good point. Mostly, I'm writing to myself as are others, they just don't realize it. Unlike you, I don't feel the need to be a savior to assist someone in ruining their life. Ironic, you are the primary one to bitch about the number of posts in a thread to begin with. But there is no point in starting up with you again. History proves you're a quiter.
Just because you post something doesn't mean you are right or even know what the hell you are talking about. In your case, it just means you're ignorant and arrogant. Now you want to be controlling? Dont bring that crap my way.
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