How is the card counting condition in Vegas recently comparing to 2013?

**San Jose Bella** · 02-05-2018, 06:37 AM

Hi all, I just registered my account today. This is my first thread post. This forum seems to have the largest AP community. (Isn't this the largest community?)
I was a part-time card counter, had been really active in 2013 traveling around taking actions, mostly in California Indian casinos and Vegas. I haven't been to Vegas for 4 years, and I'm considering to pick up my game. I heard a lot of things have changed. There are new casinos built. I heard parking is not free anywhere which sounds sad.
How is the card counting condition right now comparing to 2013 in terms of heat, population, more or less good tables(rule and penetration), and parking?
Do you guys feel paid parking hurts the mobility as a guerrilla card counter? I used to park at MGM, play for 45 minutes, then drive to Bellagio for 45 minutes, then to Wynn... Now it seems too costly to do that.

**21forme** · 02-05-2018, 07:43 AM

I haven't been to LV in several years, but...

I'd park at Trop, then go to MGM, then cross the street on foot, walk into Monte Carlo, take the retail corridor to Aria, take their tram to Bellagio, walk to Caesars, etc.

Point being, I don't think you save any time by driving, and walking is healthier.

Re forums. Yes, this one has the most activity. IMO, that's not a good metric for forum EV.

**Stealth** · 02-05-2018, 09:53 AM

Massive spreading of 6:5 blackjack. Major reduction of playable games.

Look harder to find good games.

Use Uber or walk to get around.

**San Jose Bella** · 02-05-2018, 06:05 PM

yea, I saw a newer version of Current Blackjack News. In 2013, there used to be lots of .48(house edge) tables everywhere, now it seems to be lots of 1.82(6:5,h17,ds,ls,rsa) tables. This really makes things worse a lot.

**ferenc11** · 02-06-2018, 12:57 AM

If there is a software available for 3:2 Blackjack, how come there is none programmed for 6:5 BJ?

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**ferenc11** · 02-06-2018, 01:05 AM

I can't wait to have a BJ game for 10:9.9

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**San Jose Bella** · 02-06-2018, 01:24 AM

I did some research this week. I think I'd better quit counting cards even though it was one of my favorite hobbies.
Back in 2013, I made 5 figures counting card. I was never barred and drawing heat occasionally. It was a successful year, but it was a grind, cause being careful all the time makes my mind exhausted. I told myself I would come back to Vegas after 4 years so pit bosses won't remember how I look anymore. I would imagine if I prepare myself now and go to Vegas, it would be a much harder grind than before, I would have to be always on the run since good tables are so limited now. I miss when .48 h17 tables are everywhere.
If I want to make big money, is Blackjack still worth the effort to put in the time?

**Bubbles** · 02-06-2018, 01:29 AM

Originally Posted by ferenc11

I can't wait to have a BJ game for 10:9.9

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I've found 1:1 blackjack. Barf.

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**21frogman** · 02-06-2018, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by ferenc11

If there is a software available for 3:2 Blackjack, how come there is none programmed for 6:5 BJ?

Because 6:5 BJ (especially with all the other lousy rules) can't be beaten by counting. Those who develop software probably think that those who make the effort to play as APs won't play a negative EV game.

**Gronbog** · 02-06-2018, 11:12 AM

CVData has a setting which can be used to set the payout to anything you want.

**Freightman** · 02-06-2018, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by Bubbles

I've found 1:1 blackjack. Barf.

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I would imagine with some blackjack variant.

**Bubbles** · 02-06-2018, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by Freightman

I would imagine with some blackjack variant.

Nope. It was regular double deck blackjack. No double after split, no resplit Aces, no surrender, and 50% penetration. I should have took a picture of the felt saying Blackjack 1:1. Next time I'm there, I'll snap one.

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**Freightman** · 02-06-2018, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by Bubbles

Nope. It was regular double deck blackjack. No double after split, no resplit Aces, no surrender, and 50% penetration. I should have took a picture of the felt saying Blackjack 1:1. Next time I'm there, I'll snap one.

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I don't mind playing crappy games from time time - wow, I wouldn't play that one.
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