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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Just a miscellaneous point.
    The new Canadian bills (100's about 4 years ago) and the new Yankee Benjis are thinner versions of older bills. They tend to stick together. It's easy to be off on the count either giving or receiving.
    Maybe $100 or $200, not $500.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Mama View Post
    Maybe $100 or $200, not $500.
    True enough. My roll is divided into 5 packs, which for me means - 4900,5000,5100. I'm careful enough that it's usually 5k exactly, but sometimes.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    Zee is going to do whatever the hell he wants to do. But, for some reason, likes catching shit over it.
    That's what trolls do. Stop giving him so much attention and he'll crawl back into his shoe box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    Freighter. Are you feeling okay today? You missed your cue.

    ...and Freighter says. Glad he didn't have a full cart. Otherwise, he might of killed her.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLsM_D6qGDA

    Point taken.
    I'm actually working today. Outrageous!
    Alreadin for 4 hours today, and probably 1.5 more before I'm done. Tomorrow looks rough as well - at a his point, I'd estimate 3.5 hours. That plays the .5 hours spent previously, looks like a 9.5 hour week. I'll be exhausted. Hitting a plane a Friday, so hopefully everyone will know enough not to bother me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    "likes catching shit over it."
    No surprise here, y'know.
    A normal person would have hit the bricks years ago.
    Addicts tend to be self-destructive and masochistic.

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    If Zee wants to post stuff that can be used to identify him and have a negative effect (affect? WTF i hate words) on his AP career, then let him. It's probably happened sometime in the past.

    As far as "stealing", what exactly did Zee steal? Or rather, why do you think what he did is considered stealing?
    "Everyone wants to be rich, but nobody wants to work for it." -Ryan Howard [The Office]

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    [ Steal] take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it: thieves stole her bicycle | [ no obj.] : she was found guilty of stealing from her employers | (as adj. stolen) : stolen goods.

    Once he realized that the money was not his, he was committing an act of stealing. It is also considered stealing by several state laws including Nevada for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    That's what trolls do. Stop giving him so much attention and he'll crawl back into his shoe box.
    21forme, you don't get it. ONE, I can ALWAYS felt on you to respond to a post by me. And TWO, rely on you to treat forum readers in a disrespectful manner, assuming they do not know how to identify a troll and have you educate them.

    The desperation is pathetic. You have been trying for 2+ years to get people to know about your obsession with me, telling people I am a troll on more than 3 forums, posting on a car forum, then copying your own post on that forum and sharing it on this and other forums.

    If you think I am a troll, why do you read my postings? Why do you respond? Could you not have the self discipline to just go t the next thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banker View Post
    [ Steal] take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it: thieves stole her bicycle | [ no obj.] : she was found guilty of stealing from her employers | (as adj. stolen) : stolen goods.

    Once he realized that the money was not his, he was committing an act of stealing. It is also considered stealing by several state laws including Nevada for example.
    FWIW, you've imoressed me as a moral person.
    Hypothetical, maybe not so hypothetical, though the timing if the events are changed to more solidly make the point.

    The part time critter part time dealer is dealing today (a few years ago). The little shit knows what I'm doing. I have a medium $150 bet out, playing heads up. I double 11 v whatever and my 10 ends up in his hand. On duty critter won't backup - instead of winning $300, I lose $300, a $600 swing. Shoe finishes and the little shit half shoes me. You know fuckng well the little shit did it on purpose.

    A week or 2 later, same store, Miss Goody Two Shoes, who smiles at you, but will knife you if she thinks you're a winner, who is usually extraordinarily efficient, screws up big time. Again, playing heads up (don't recall the exact hand) I've got something like 2x350 out. I have 88 and 11 v dealer ace. I can't surrender versus dealer ace. Insure both hands split 88 with a double or 2 with good results. Double hand 2. I have 6x350 on the table - may be off on a detail, but it's pretty close to this. Dealer gets Blackjack. Instead of the regular result, she pays each and every stack.

    Of course, she may have busted and played correctly, but that wrecks the story, or does it. I don't see ànything wrong with this mispay. Equity is restored - overly. I personally find most dealer errors work against me, but that's just me.
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    I've had stores deliberately cheat me because I was an AP. And my motto is "the sword cuts both ways. "

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    Dealers' errors are a little bit different. As you said, dealers error work both ways and actually if you are not alert, they work mostly against the player. If you accept dealer errors in your favor, you either break even or may be you are getting more than you entitled to from the casino. There is no harm done to the dealer unless caught be surveillance. At the cage, each employee gets a drawer with a count of money. If something is missing, that employee must be held responsible in someway to keep the system functional. So, accepting a mispay has personal consequences on that person that has nothing to do with the player good or bad relation with the casino. If you notice in the OP post, he started by saying "after a losing session..." , which in part an attempt to rationalize keeping the money.

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    I always correct the cage on errors. One time they kept trying to over pay me. Took three attempts to get it straight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    The main person you should look out for is a casino environment is yourself. I know, this sounds like bad morality. Doesn't mean you still can't lend a hand to someone in need every once in awhile.

    On a Thursday night I saw a guy get roughed up for using racial slurs while hollering at big screens with no sound. The ones you think you will be in a battle with are rarely the ones doing the damage. In short, "shut up and enjoy the damn game."

    On a Saturday night I saw a guy getting hassled and he was bothering no one. His crime? Trying to stay awake, looking bad, and finding himself in the wrong place. He was wearing dark glasses, a stocking hat, and had a long gray beard. It looked like he was staring directly at a young lady. Then his head and arm would drop. They assumed he was drunk. I figured "what the hell is there to lose"? So I got him a cup of coffee and a glass of water. I took it over and said, "excuse me sir, they are going to throw you out if you're sleeping in here." He lifted up his dark glasses and thanked me. At least that stopped the mockers. I went back and sat down. He drank everything down. But still sat staring into space, not bothering anyone, nor asking for anything.

    I went back and ask him if he wanted something to eat. He declined. I ask, "are you sure, no offence, but it looks like maybe you haven't eatin in awhile." He replied, "if you don't mind, I could probably eat a little something." So I went to the deli and brought him back a cup of chicken soup and a bread bowl and some more coffee and water. He was very appreciative, lifted his glasses to look me in the eyes to thank me, and shake my hand. I went back and sat nearby. He sat upright, prayed, put his napkin on his lap, used his silverware, and ate every bite. I sort of wondered when the last time he'd sat at a table and had something to eat. When finished, he put everything in the trash, cleaned his table, came over and thanked me again. I said, stay warm? He assured me he would. The bigger picture is it offered a different point of view to those that were hassling him.

    See Bosox. There are all sorts of ways to provide protection.

    A bit of topic. But this thread turned into one of a morality issue. I'm not blowing my own horn. Merely offering a perspective of seeing things differently.


    No worries. I will delete soon.
    They're different ways of showing humanity, not necessarily in a casino environment. I've done similar stuff. No need to delete.

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