really?

[muffdiver]

Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[falling star]

I smell a progression bettor. It sure doesn't smell like victory.

I have a prayer: Dear LORD, if all counters are going to heaven, please let me go to hell. Better make that purgatory.

[sagefr0g]

I'll mention some of the key ingredients, but necessity forces me to hide them in the bushes.

The game plan is basically a puzzle. All pieces need to be in place. Any missing pieces will, in some way, impact the outcome.
The plan needs to be broad based in scope. The betting ramp needs to have both multi and mini levels. Each bet is isolated and independent. The plan then needs to be carried out in an unemotional, robotic way.

you are making it way to complicated, this isn't rocket science.
let's try this. true or false?
in order to make money over the long haul going up against a game of chance, you need to have an advantage.

[falling star]

Beautiful lettering.

[falling star]

you are making it way to complicated, this isn't rocket science.
let's try this. true or false?
in order to make money over the long haul going up against a game of chance, you need to have an advantage.

I understand now. You can only win if you have an advantage and only counters have a lock on advantage. Makes perfect sense. Extra, extra, read all about it. Counters have cornered the market on advantage. Isn't there a law against monopolies?

[Three]

I understand now. You can only win if you have an advantage and only counters have a lock on advantage. Makes perfect sense. Extra, extra, read all about it. Counters have cornered the market on advantage. Isn't there a law against monopolies?

Wow you jump to conclusions. Our amphibious friend is an AP but not much of a card player if I properly remember his posts. The key to his comment is gaining an advantage. Most games can be beat. The key is finding the advantage play and exploiting it. Bets made without knowledge of advantage will never add to an advantage.

[sagefr0g]

I understand now. You can only win if you have an advantage and only counters have a lock on advantage. Makes perfect sense. Extra, extra, read all about it. Counters have cornered the market on advantage. Isn't there a law against monopolies?

meh, counting that's one way but there are loads of others(as tthree alluded).
but advantage? yes, that's the key, bingo, give that man a cigar, he has arrived.

so what needs to be added to the OP of our dearly defunct, locked thread?
the latter part, the period after the negative variance where you recommend small flat bets, needs what? an advantage, no?

[falling star]

Wow you jump to conclusions. Our amphibious friend is an AP but not much of a card player if I properly remember his posts. The key to his comment is gaining an advantage. Most games can be beat. The key is finding the advantage play and exploiting it. Bets made without knowledge of advantage will never add to an advantage.

I may taken advantage of the moment to poke fun at all counters. My apology Sage. I knew exactly what you meant.
i just don't believe in pre-advantage, only post-advantage. In tennis, the score keeper will say advantage so and so but only after the advantage is won. It's not much, but it's how I see things.

[falling star]

meh, counting that's one way but there are loads of others(as tthree alluded).
but advantage? yes, that's the key, bingo, give that man a cigar, he has arrived.

so what needs to be added to the OP of our dearly defunct, locked thread?
the latter part, the period after the negative variance where you recommend small flat bets, needs what? an advantage, no?

I see it as putting time and space between a large loss to prevent it from hooking up with another large loss. Not very scientific but easy on the player and his bankroll. It could result in the player getting by with a smaller bankroll while sill playing at higher stakes. Got to go , I think I see Norm heading over here with another lock.

[happyjack21]

You can walk into a casino with all kinds of degrees, and they'll still take your money. To win, you need a thorough knowledge of the game, awareness of the problems you'll face, how you are going to overcome those problems, an adequate bankroll and patience. The long run will save me approach, IMO, is rather naive.If you don't win, it's probably to late to do anything about it.
Everyone has the same amount of luck in playing games, once it's used up, it doesn't get replenished.

So you have realized there is a way to beat the game but you don't believe in the long run?
I'm just trying to understand where you are coming from. I don't think anyone deserves to be stuck in ploppyland that has the mental prowess to learn a CC system.
That paragraph is like the game "find the one thing that is not like the other two."

[Three]

Everyone has the same amount of luck in playing games, once it's used up, it doesn't get replenished.

I make my own "luck" therefore my luck can be replenished.

[sagefr0g]

I may taken advantage of the moment to poke fun at all counters. My apology Sage. I knew exactly what you meant.

no problem. taking advantage of the counters?, lmao, you really do have the idea.

i just don't believe in pre-advantage, only post-advantage. In tennis, the score keeper will say advantage so and so but only after the advantage is won. It's not much, but it's how I see things.

well, unless you're past posting (sneaking in a bet after an event ) i don't see how a post-advantage is gonna help yah, lol.
rest assured there is such a thing as a pre-bet advantage.

I see it as putting time and space between a large loss to prevent it from hooking up with another large loss. Not very scientific but easy on the player and his bankroll. It could result in the player getting by with a smaller bankroll while sill playing at higher stakes.

meh, well i guess that could be a matter of utility, just let's always keep that advantage factor in there, that's the key.
this fluctuation thing can be dealt with by proper bet sizing along with a sufficient bankroll, ideally you have that all worked out ahead of time, then you don't even have to think about it, sorta thing.

Got to go , I think I see Norm heading over here with another lock.

gulp, he definately has the advantage around here.

[falling star]

So you have realized there is a way to beat the game but you don't believe in the long run?
I'm just trying to understand where you are coming from. I don't think anyone deserves to be stuck in ploppyland that has the mental prowess to learn a CC system.
That paragraph is like the game "find the one thing that is not like the other two."

I believe in the long run, everybody does, but it has no value to us as players. What are you going to do with it? Is it going to change the way you play blackjack? It gives us a lot of statistics which are frozen in time, until something new is added. Then new sims might cause a change. As long as you've included new verifiable information that gives you better results, the long term importance is less relevant.