Table Hold and LS

[BoSox]

Yes the BJ games "on the floor" differ. At Foxwoods, the High Limit Room
entitled the Newport Room has $50 minimums and far better penetration
than anything available at Mohegan Sun. For academic interest, Foxwoods
has a High Limit room, where I have never set foot. Minimums at BJ I am
told, are $500. I understand that a $500,000 credit line is required for entry.

ZMF, the guy "Shoe" who ran the private board that you and I were on played in the Star Gazer casino at least once years ago and the minimum was $200 at that time. I do not know about the line of credit. When I played the Newport Room, "infrequently, at a reserved table off hours" one time my wife was with me and I asked a floor boss to see the casino upstairs which a half hour later was granted. My wife and I were escorted by a security person, and we were more impressed with the large windows that were just like the nice private lounge on the 21 floor that I often went to.

[paymypush]

I've been to Stargazer a few times as the guest of a player. I have never played there or been vetted to play there. How does one wong out up there?

As of last summer I can confirm the $200 minimums.

[AndretheGiant]

Mohegan also has a private hi limit room,you need a million dollar credit line,500 minimum bet,max is 25k per hand and you can play up to 3 hands,and can resplit aces,s17 LS.

[cc12b]

Thank RS, so as player I do not care about the "hold".

[Freightman]

Thank RS, so as player I do not care about the "hold".

I know of a couple of hi limit rooms which have very loose tracking rules. Accordingly, even to a degree heads up, you can "disguise" your winnings.

The criteria to more closely analyze the table comes from the hold. If the table lost more than some ordained acceptable loss, management will want to know why. If you've crushed the table that has lots of ploppy losses, your win is just a part of the furniture. No one is really the wiser.

So, the hold is important.

[paymypush]

Mohegan also has a private hi limit room,you need a million dollar credit line,500 minimum bet,max is 25k per hand and you can play up to 3 hands,and can resplit aces,s17 LS.

In the Stargazer the minimum credit line is $100,000.

[ZenMaster_Flash]

"In the Stargazer the minimum credit line is $100,000."

Vastly decreased net revenue led to a decreased requisit credit line.

[cc12b]

I know of a couple of hi limit rooms which have very loose tracking rules. Accordingly, even to a degree heads up, you can "disguise" your winnings.

The criteria to more closely analyze the table comes from the hold. If the table lost more than some ordained acceptable loss, management will want to know why. If you've crushed the table that has lots of ploppy losses, your win is just a part of the furniture. No one is really the wiser.

So, the hold is important.

But you do not know the hold unless/until casino disclose to public, even then you do not know the hold of the table you are seating at. Am I missing something?

[Freightman]

But you do not know the hold unless/until casino disclose to public, even then you do not know the hold of the table you are seating at. Am I missing something?

No, you don't know. What you can know is to ask the dealer about the total buy in from the last check, when the counter was reset to zero. Further, by inference, you may get a handle on things by asking "did anyone get lucky".

[cc12b]

No, you don't know. What you can know is to ask the dealer about the total buy in from the last check, when the counter was reset to zero. Further, by inference, you may get a handle on things by asking "did anyone get lucky".

Even the dealer give you the best of his/her knowledge it still like the blinds touch parts the elephant and tell you how elephant "looks" like as dealer rotation makes he/she know only part of the thing. Bottom line is you do not know/care about the HOLD

[Freightman]

Even the dealer give you the best of his/her knowledge it still like the blinds touch parts the elephant and tell you how elephant "looks" like as dealer rotation makes he/she know only part of the thing. Bottom line is you do not know/care about the HOLD

You asked, I told.
Think I'll scratch my balls - more productive.

[cc12b]

"Think I'll scratch my balls - more productive." Thanks, keep doing what you doing, it also more pleasure.

[terry0222]

Regarding 'table drop'.

Isn't table drop only an approximation? It would be impacted by people who bring chips to the table or those who leave the table with chips. Yes? If I am correct, is there an assumption that everything will "even out" over time to reflect accurate drop statistics?

Also, I am guessing that table drop does not differentiate between the "main game", such as blackjack, and side-bet games, such as 3-card poker. I've seen some big wins when one or two people happen to hit the "top 3 bet" [3 of a kind, same suit] within a relatively short period of time.