Atlantic City BJ back then versus now?

[Casanova]

To my senior APs, how much better was AC back then compared to now? I'm in my early 20s and it seems like before my existence, was the golden age of Blackjack. I'd like to hear some first hand accounts rather than from Documentaries

[Three]

BS gave you an off the top advantage in the early days.

[ZenMaster_Flash]

Early days in A C:

Deal 3 of 4 decks.

S17, ES, DAS.

[paymypush]

To my senior APs, how much better was AC back then compared to now? I'm in my early 20s and it seems like before my existence, was the golden age of Blackjack. I'd like to hear some first hand accounts rather than from Documentaries

There were 4 deck games. There was early surrender, meaning you could surrender before the dealer checked for blackjack. Lots, and I mean lots, of money was made.

Early surrender was soon replaced with late surrender and the 4 deck games were replaced by 6 deck games. It's a far cry from today's mostly 8 deck H17 games on the main floors. There is no surrender anywhere in town although I know a place where it can be requested. There are even some 8 deck games that pay 6:5 today.

[Casanova]

Lots, and I mean lots, of money was made.

I can only imagine how you guys were crushing it during those days!! I've yet to come across a game with ES or LS. I've only played in AC & both casinos in Connecticut. Also was hole carding more easier then? There wasn't the emphasis on catching APs like how it is today

[Casanova]

What is your fondest memory of Early AC Zen?

[cc12b]

The O.P bring in interesting subject. I never been there but Google it and get some info. As some veterans noted, it turns for the worst and becoming a desert place, I mean with terrible playing conditions make people,even ploppies, turn away. Do casino bosses learned the lesson? I do not know. http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf..._city_and.html

[paymypush]

I can only imagine how you guys were crushing it during those days!! I've yet to come across a game with ES or LS. I've only played in AC & both casinos in Connecticut. Also was hole carding more easier then? There wasn't the emphasis on catching APs like how it is today

Both Connecticut casinos have always had late surrender.

[Casanova]

Both Connecticut casinos have always had late surrender.

Never noticed that. Then again I’ve only played one session of BJ in both Foxwoods and Mohegan and a few sessions at Ballys in AC. I’m no where near ready to hit the BJ tables again. I got basic strategy down packed but I’m trying to master keeping count along with all the distractions that go on during prime time. I hit the casinos now strictly for Craps. When I do pass a BJ table, I usually wong for a few then keep it moving. Seen a guy in Wind, who drained $2500 by playing hands of $500 during a negative count. Shook my head and walked away

[AndretheGiant]

Both Connecticut casinos have always had late surrender.

Foxwoods originally did not have surrender,they started offering it once Mohegan opened.

[paymypush]

Foxwoods originally did not have surrender,they started offering it once Mohegan opened.

You are correct and I did know that. I used 'always' for effect. Sorry.

I guess I was just incredulous that someone interested in counting played at two different casinos and wasn't aware that surrender was offered. Granted it is not printed on the felt and there are no signs indicating it, but all you have to do is ask.

[ZenMaster_Flash]

BOTH Connecticut casinos have ALWAYS had Late Surrender.
Note: I played Foxwoods "Day one."

In Atlantic City, only the Golden Nugget offers L.S. upon request.
Anyone unknown to them asking to surrender will get high scrutiny.
I doubt that it is available on lower stakes tables, but I am unsure.

[Casanova]

You are correct and I did know that. I used 'always' for effect. Sorry.

I guess I was just incredulous that someone interested in counting played at two different casinos and wasn't aware that surrender was offered. Granted it is not printed on the felt and there are no signs indicating it, but all you have to do is ask.

Hence why I didn't know they offered LS. Again I'm just getting into counting (3 months) and I prefer not to ask. Especially in Mohegan because the last time I went, I was kicked off the craps table for "both dice not hitting the back wall hard enough" after they saw me hit two 12s back to back with the 10 being my 3rd Mark! When the time comes, CBJN will answer all my questions regarding any table status.