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    KO players or any players advice needed regarding CVdata

    Hi Girls and Boys!

    I am REKO player. Would it be worthwhile to purchase CVData? Would it "boost" my game far more? Especially for generating Index Numbers?
    At the moment i only use CVCX (not the demo version) but i have a feeling that i have a leak in my game unfortunately.

    Thanks for any reply

    Cheers

    All the best

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    So many advices, i dont even know how to use them.

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    Al least finally i got a decent answer. Thank You Moses!
    One more question, a quick one: If late surrender rule is allowed but not against ACE , What is it called then? I am talking about a ENHC game.
    Thank You

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferenc11 View Post
    Al least finally i got a decent answer. Thank You Moses!
    One more question, a quick one: If late surrender rule is allowed but not against ACE , What is it called then? I am talking about a ENHC game.
    Thank You
    If players are allowed to surrender vs all dealer upcards EXCEPT for Ace on games where the dealer takes his second card only after all players have played out their hands this is called Early Surrender Vs Ten or ES10. You'll see it in some parts of Canada as well as some other countries.

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    You already helped me a little bit. Thanks very much!

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    I play 6 deck with REKO and am also trying to find ways to squeak a little more out of my game. Here's a couple of ideas if you haven't considered them.
    1. Color of Blackjack style bet ramps
    2. REKO-F Full Indexes instead of REKO compromise indexes
    3. REKO-I indices by depth
    CVData can help you develop the REKO-I indices, I believe, although I haven't gotten that far myself.

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    I know this isn't what people want to hear and it's sensitive because it sparks dumb debates, but switch to a stronger count. You'll be happier and in a very many respects it's easier than all the bullshit you're doing.

    I went through this exact process.

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    I have read Color of Blackjack. I also apply REKO-F indices by heart. But yet i do not seem to win lately. (not whining just trying to find some kind of solution)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferenc11 View Post
    Hi Girls and Boys!

    I am REKO player. Would it be worthwhile to purchase CVData? Would it "boost" my game far more? Especially for generating Index Numbers?
    At the moment i only use CVCX (not the demo version) but i have a feeling that i have a leak in my game unfortunately.

    Thanks for any reply

    Cheers

    All the best
    For an unbalanced count make sure you are following the optimal bet ramp to the letter for each individual penetration and situations. For example, if you use an optimal bet ramp from 1 player for playing against 4 players the bet ramp is not considered to be optimal. That might be one of your leaks in your game. Making a mistake in your index numbers are not as severe compare to making a mistake in your optimal bet ramps. I am not saying that it is okay to make index number mistakes.
    Last edited by seriousplayer; 11-17-2017 at 01:56 PM.

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    I strictly employ the betting ramps provided by CVCX. The hands set to 5000 millions. Mostly i play with another player at the table. Sometimes heads up. I am an early bird. The penetration most of the time is either 1.0 or 1.5.
    So if the program tells me to place a bet of 50 on 2 spots at running count of 24 or above i do it without hesitation. In fact I lost 1500 euro on one shoe with a very high count. The dealer hammered me down completely. ))
    Last edited by ferenc11; 11-17-2017 at 02:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferenc11 View Post
    I strictly employ the betting ramps provided by CVCX. The hands set to 5000 millions. Mostly i play with another player at the table. Sometimes heads up. I am an early bird. The penetration most of the time is either 1.0 or 1.5.
    So if the program tells me to place a bet of 50 on 2 spots at running count of 24 or above i do it without hesitation. In fact I lost 1500 euro on one shoe with a very high count. The dealer hammered me down completely. ))
    Again if you are not taking into consideration penetration and the number of players than your bet spread are not considered optimal since it is an unbalanced count and you are using it in running count mode. If the bet ramp that you are using is for 1.5 decks and you use it in 1 deck cut off game you are not betting optimally. The same with the number of player on the table. If you use a bet spread for 4 players and you use it for 1 player it is not optimal betting. Are you changing your bet ramps according to the environments of the game often or you stick with the same bet ramp throughout? That is one leak in your game to think about and improve upon.
    Last edited by seriousplayer; 11-17-2017 at 05:38 PM.

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    So for each scenario you should change your optimal betting ramp taking into consideration of the rules and players? That's a lot of betting ramps. Or plan in the head.
    Last edited by ferenc11; 11-18-2017 at 01:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferenc11 View Post
    So for each scenario you should change your optimal betting ramp taking into consideration of the rules and players?
    As you can see, huge difference in optimal betting ramp
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