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  1. 11-04-2017, 01:50 AM #1
    pilotzone
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    Biggest edge on a black table, and how you got it

    For example, found a dealer that when you had a 15$ doubledown, she would play you $60. So all of a sudden the table was betting $15 as their small bet, and doubling a lot more often. 10 vs 10, 9 vs 2, and many more.
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    When you asked for half your bet back to give up your hand the dealer gave you half your bet back and left the original bet in the betting circle every time.
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    pilotzone ... The dealer pays you 2-1 on your aggregate (doubled) wager?

    Three ... why are you referencing surrender in this thread?
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  4. 11-04-2017, 06:54 AM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    When you asked for half your bet back to give up your hand the dealer gave you half your bet back and left the original bet in the betting circle every time.
    I've experienced this as well with a break-in (re surrender): The dealer pushed half my bet back and left the other half in the betting circle and forot to take it = FREE BET, a number of times.

    Also with the same dealer, when it was appropriate to surrender against an Ace I'd announce "Surrender, please!" before she even slid the hole card under her up card. Flustered, she'd let me surrender...EARLY...with MAX BET up a couple of times in both cases. I've also experienced times when the dealer ASSUMED I was staying on certain hands, then flipped the hole card and drew based on the stated rules. Then, I'd call the floor over, and he/she would let me draw until I beat the dealer / busted. Some floor people have even allowed my bet not to be swept when I busted because they knew I was getting frustrated by it. It pays to become very friendly with certain floor people. And one could argue that THAT can be your biggest edge in some instances.
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  5. 11-04-2017, 07:31 AM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post
    Three ... why are you referencing surrender in this thread?
    Because the OP, who sets the threads direction, used an example of dealer error as having a very large advantage. Obviously that was what the thread was to include.
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  6. 11-04-2017, 09:31 AM #6
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    What's the +ev doubling down with 3 card 10/11 when that isn't a rule?
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  7. 11-04-2017, 10:09 AM #7
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    Biggest edge on a black table, and how you got it

    It's worth the same as if it is an actual rule, lol. Doubling on an amount of cards I think is about
    .20, same as stay on soft 17. A casino in Vancouver had this rule, for months, only one table.
    Last edited by pilotzone; 11-04-2017 at 10:22 AM.
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  8. 11-06-2017, 11:06 AM #8
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    I would think hole carding and next carding (combined, or I suppose either separately if we're going more practical and less theoretical) would be some of the largest edges one could obtain on blackjack.
    Don't think you have a winning game; know you have a winning game.
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    Knowing that my first card dealt was an ace on a Hi-Tie side bet table.
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    Promotion 7:2 on suited blackjack. Also 2:1 on blackjack.
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    There is diminishing e.v. returns at the extremes.
    At a VERY high T.C. your advantage drops off.

    Our Patron Saint ~ P. Griffin ~ gave more info on
    this in The Theory of Blackjack, expressed as a %
    of Face cards. I think that it was 71%
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  12. 11-06-2017, 04:17 PM #12
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    Dealer errors are a thing of beauty. The problem with BJ is that most dealers are pretty competent in the basics and the errors are few and far between. Other games - think outside the box.......
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  13. 11-07-2017, 04:59 AM #13
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    Edge sorting double deck.
    Its like a license to print money.
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