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    Please share your record keeping spread sheet without data or with "doctored" data. Please recommend ready made software or what should be in record keeping if one should create it him/herself. I have an Excel but very limit things to record. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by cc12b View Post
    Please recommend ready made software or what should be in record keeping if one should create it him/herself.
    FYI, we track the following information per session:

    Date
    Time
    Player ID
    Type - Spot, Big Player, Balanced Betting, AllPlay
    Partner ID (spotter or balanced bettor)
    Actual Results
    Game Played (Example: 6D H17 Das Rsa Sr 78 cards cut off) and count used (HiLo, Zen, KO, etc)
    Unit - dollar amount of base unit for bet ramp
    Bet Ramp ID - predefined bet ramps to suit various play protocols
    Wong out % - % of time wonged out at TC-1 or less
    Rounds played - # rounds played if BP or number of shoes played if other type
    spots played - adjust variance calculations based on spots played
    Casino
    Trip ID


    Needless to say there are shortcuts to the reporting process that takes place immediately after player leaves table. To analyze the data you have to have a game model to compare it to and data from CVCX is used to provide those models.

    As I have mentioned, not many lone AP's want or need to collect this detail of data. As both a student of the game and of team play, it is highly valuable to our adventures.
    Luck is nothing more than probability taken personally!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cc12b View Post
    Please share your record keeping spread sheet without data or with "doctored" data. Please recommend ready made software or what should be in record keeping if one should create it him/herself. I have an Excel but very limit things to record. Thanks
    For blackjack, a simple Excel sheet... Columns: Date, Location, Comps/Coupons, Hours Played, Hands Played, EV, CE, AV, Totals.
    Don't think you have a winning game; know you have a winning game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romes View Post
    For blackjack, a simple Excel sheet... Columns: Date, Location, Comps/Coupons, Hours Played, Hands Played, EV, CE, AV, Totals.
    Add on a column or 2 of pertinent data fir the specific individual. Use filters to look at data by any number of criteria, or mix of criteria, including date, store, losses only or losses over a specific amount, same thing for women bs etc etc. Either download to apAccess, or refresh an Excel pivot chart to look at specific info on a continual basis. The permutations are endless. The data, over a large Nv period of time, can provide lots of data pertaining to the strength or weakness of your bpgame.

    Though I don't go to this extent anymore, do not discount the value of the information.

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    I once left $40,000 in a casino safe deposit box and forgot about it.
    About a year later I was recognized at the casino and was told ...
    I left a rather magnanimously generous gratuity for the clerk. At least
    a quartet of Benjamins certainly made her day -- believe me, and at
    that joint she would have been 'gobsmacked' for a twenty dollar bill.

    I once lost a $5,000 chip in a casino restaurant.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post
    I once lost a $5,000 chip in a casino restaurant.
    Never had a 5k chip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post

    I once left $40,000 in a casino safe deposit box and forgot about it.
    About a year later I was recognized at the casino and was told ...
    I left a rather magnanimously generous gratuity for the clerk. At least
    a quartet of Benjamins certainly made her day -- believe me, and at
    that joint she would have been 'gobsmacked' for a twenty dollar bill.

    I once lost a $5,000 chip in a casino restaurant.

    I lost a bill fold at a store some years back. It had 1700 on it. Also, my wallet fell out of my pocket at a Vegas restaurant . Was with the wife. Can't recall exactly, but I thought I had around 15k stuffed in it. It was in a Velcro sealed pocket, but took it out to pay the bill. Waitress ran down the hall to return it. Needless to say, I was thankful.

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