New CARD COUNTING technique. FACE CARDS ONLY

[pennGuy]

Hi Everyone,

I feel, the basic counting method of -1,0,+1 method is sometimes time consuming and I tend to miscalculate the + and -.

So, I've come up with a new technique. To count only face value cards, i.e. 10, J, Q, K, A.

Here is the logistics:
- Dealer has 6 decks. In 1 deck, there will be 20 face value cards.
- So in 6 decks, there will be 120 face value cards.
- If my count will cross lets say 60 and the dealer has less than 1/2 of the cards left in the shoe, then i would start increasing my bet.

Kindly evaluate the pros and cons of this FACE technique.

Thank you

[RCJH]

Where to start...

So, you want to bet WHEN you have an advantage IN PROPORTION to your advantage, taking your bankroll and risk or ruin into consideration. To do this, you need to know the proportion of big cards to little cards. Counting the faces dealt only tells half the story, if that. Plus, I think you misspoke and said if it crosses 60. If I understand what you're saying correctly, you should be betting big if the face number is small. .???

I'd suggest practicing HiLo. Learn to cancel the cards, so if you see a King and a five, for example, you really see zero. If that's still too hard, learn KO or red 7.

[pilotzone]

Don't try to reinvent the wheel!! If you think -1,0,1 is too time consuming and you miscalculate the -/+, then you have not practiced very much. Most things worth while, take time to master. Being a loser doesn't take much skill or practice, being very good or the best takes lots of know how, and practice. So it's up to you the path you want to follow!


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[Midwest Player]

Sounds like casual card counting. Better than nothing.
http://www.blackjack-play.eu/casual-...unting-in.html

[Norm]

This kind of system is reinvented every several years (OPP, Speed Count, Master Count, Drunk Count). The SCORE is abysmal.

[terry0222]

Rather than spending hours trying to develop and perfect your "new counting technique," I would invest my time practicing an established and legitimate counting technique.

https://qfit.com/card-counting.htm

Choose one. The chart lays out the advantages and disadvantages of each. But choose one, and practice.

Practice until you are excellent, even with distractions. You really don't need to be running to the casino next week.

[stopgambling]

The SCORE is abysmal.

s.c.o.r.e. directly affects your success.

[Meistro123]

I don't see how this new system would consume any less time than hi lo.

[seriousplayer]

Hi Everyone,

I feel, the basic counting method of -1,0,+1 method is sometimes time consuming and I tend to miscalculate the + and -.

So, I've come up with a new technique. To count only face value cards, i.e. 10, J, Q, K, A.

Here is the logistics:
- Dealer has 6 decks. In 1 deck, there will be 20 face value cards.
- So in 6 decks, there will be 120 face value cards.
- If my count will cross lets say 60 and the dealer has less than 1/2 of the cards left in the shoe, then i would start increasing my bet.

Kindly evaluate the pros and cons of this FACE technique.

Thank you

Counting the face value cards only sound like the card counting system invented by Fred Renzey called the Ace/10 Front Count. You are better off starting with the KISS I.

http://www.bjinsider.com/newsletter_92_systemsb.shtml

[Jabberwocky]

Counting the face value cards only sound like the card counting system invented by Fred Renzey called the Ace/10 Front Count. You are better off starting with the KISS I.

http://www.bjinsider.com/newsletter_92_systemsb.shtml

I've recently switched to U Zen II.

[seriousplayer]

I've recently switched to U Zen II.

I have done simulations on U Zen II to try to get it on value to the Halves count. Using U Zen II in unbalanced mode for 6-8 decks the SCORE is rarely higher than Halves count. But using full indices in a double deck game the SCORE slightly outperforms Halves.

[Jabberwocky]

I made the switch not for higher score values but because of ocular degenerative disease.

[seriousplayer]

Try switching the tag values for the 3 and the 7 on Wong Halves for DD.

moses by doing that you created a lot of work for me because I will need to use CVDATA to generate full set of indices for switching the tag values for the 3 and the 7 on Wong Halves for DD. I am not sure why it would make a significant difference by switching the two tag value but here are the efficiency using the card counting calculator:

Wong Halves

A-(-1)
2-.5
3-1
4-1
5-1.5
6-1
7-.5
8-0
9-(-.5)
T-(-1)

BC= .99, PE = .56, IC =.72

3 and 7 tag switched on Wong Halves

A-(-1)
2-.5
3-.5
4-1
5-1.5
6-1
7-1
8-0
9-(-.5)
T-(-1)

BC= .98, PE = .58, IC =.72

UBZII

A-(-1)
2-1
3-2
4-2
5-2
6-2
7-1
8-0
9-0
T-(-2)

BC= .97, PE = .62, IC =.84

Interchanging the tags on Wong Halves for 3 and 7 does increase the PE slightly. The BC has decreased but the IC stays the same. To know for sure I will need to generate full indices (which is time consuming) then compare it to UBZII.