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    Heat problem (please help me)

    I have been practicing card-counting through CVCJ.
    I have no problem playing with correct strategies based on Hi-lo counting.
    But I have no idea how to reduce heat on CVCJ.
    Any recommendation regarding how to reduce the heats and make enough profits?

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    Wait, you're worried about getting heat from your computer?
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    Reduce your bet spread, play fewer hands, lower your max bet, don't vary your play based on the count, etc. If you examine the heat tables, you can see what things drive heat.

    Try restricting your bet variation to 1) increase only after both a win and the count dictates an increase, 2) decrease your bet only after both a loss and the TC count decreases. This cover strategy will, BTW, decrease your EV.

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    I see what your saying Intermediate. I will try that rule. It seems to be making sense to me.

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    moo321. Sorry my incorrect grammar usage again confused you.
    No. I am not worried getting heat from my computer, but I am worried getting heat from the CVBJ software.
    After I play one or two shoes, the pit and surveilence reaches the max, and I have no idea how to reduce those attributes, insinuating that I do not know how to cover-play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chang04133 View Post
    moo321. Sorry my incorrect grammar usage again confused you.
    No. I am not worried getting heat from my computer, but I am worried getting heat from the CVBJ software.
    After I play one or two shoes, the pit and surveilence reaches the max, and I have no idea how to reduce those attributes, insinuating that I do not know how to cover-play.
    I wouldn't worry about the computer thinking you're up to something. In a real casino, you'll learn to recognize when they are on to you, and get out.
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    thanks. moo.

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    i wouldn't worry too much about cover because if you cover too much there will be no need to for cover as you will be playing a losing game or a break even game at best.

    do what moo says, feel the heat get out

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    i think the idea of the heat indicator in cvbj is a feedback system to help you understand how your method of play induces or doesn't induce heat. you can read about the heat parameters by left clicking on the graphic thermometer indicators in cvbj. gives you an idea of the sort of thing that induces heat. so you can watch those thermometers as you play and determine what it is about how you play that makes the meters react, sorta thing. i'm pretty sure you can reset them so you can try different tacts, sorta thing.

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    • If you're too worried about cover and do too many "cover" plays, as said earlier, you might end up playing a break even or slightly positive/negative game.
    • If you're "covering" with stupid plays but still betting with the count to the notch, well, you might still get flagged as a counter.
    • I think (correct me if I'm wrong), they mostly look at how you bet, not so much how you play (sure, splitting TENS will draw heat, but hit/stay 12v6...not so much).
    • You're better off by only increasing your bet after a win (if count calls for it), stay if you push, etc.
    • Of course, if the count REALLY calls for an increase in your bet and you're still at 1 unit after many pushes or losses, you could throw in some voodoo-magic-trix and bump your bet to "win back losses".
    • Just don't play like a freaken robot by betting with the count exactly, especially decreasing bets after a win, increasing (a lot) after a loss, or decrease after a push.
    • Sometimes increase your bet after a loss or decrease after a win or whatever. Keep 'em guessing.
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    It helps to "steam" when you have to significantly increase your bet after a loss, or better yet, a series of losses. It's easier when you have a pit boss watching, but a lot harder to communicate steaming to the EITS. I suppose once the EITS is engaged, acting at the table is ineffective.

    It's difficult to get your actual heat sensor developed via software tools, as opposed to practicing the effectiveness of cover. You have to just go and play, push the edge a little, observe pit behavior and do a thorough assessment of your play/behavior after you've experienced the heat. I myself still have a lot to learn. The question is how many stores will I burn before I get good.

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