Some advice on betting spread

[terry0222]

Hey guys!


I was planning on some back counting and utilizing the floating advantage for a 6 deck game with a $10 minimum. The penetration is at about 76%-80%.

I'm going from memory, but seems to me that Don S in BJA was suggesting that attempting to use floating advantage in these circumstances is not feasible. Am I correct, or should I take another look at that chapter ??

Thanks

[Freightman]

I'm going from memory, but seems to me that Don S in BJA was suggesting that attempting to use floating advantage in these circumstances is not feasible. Am I correct, or should I take another look at that chapter ??

Thanks

You're correct. Floating advantage is neglible p, if ebpven present at 80%. Need deep pen to utilize.

[Meistro123]

That looks like a reasonable approach; a good rule of thumb is 100 max bets. You are playing a pretty marginal game though, you should look around for something better.

[stopgambling]

i would keep it simple ( all those ramping is not gonna make your much more). $25 and $50 at tc 3 and tc 4. if you happened to hit true 5,6 then go to $75 . of course going to 2x $25 and 2x $50... is even better . it depends on tolerance. you wanna win , just play a ton . Look for either good pen or un crowded tables would be of help. You can get fancy once you built up experience and a bigger bank.

[Romes]

1-5 spread while wonging still won't earn you much per hour. You're almost better off finding a TOLLERENT game and just camping it out (still wonging out at TC -1 or so) and just spreading $10-$90, or even $10-2x$90.

With your current plan of attack (which isn't horrible, just not really profitable) you could earn more money by playing basic strategy, betting minimum, and focusing on beatable side bets...

EDIT:

If you're going to wong in at TC +2, and play down to TC +1, I'd recommend the following spread:

TC <+1 = 0
TC +1 = $10
TC +2 = $30
TC => +3 = $50

Even doing that, and wonging, you're looking at approximately $8-$9 per hour. You could still make that same amount attacking a side bet and giving up your min bet basic strategy of -$6.7/hour (assuming $10 and 100hph). Your best way to make EV is to find a TOLERANT game (again why I think heat is the #1 condition to look for). Then you can camp out, spreading $10-$90, wong out anything less than TC -1 (aka just sit out, don't even have to change tables but of course you could do this too), and play something where you can also beat the side bet. This would bring you to an EV more like ~$20/hour... Not bad for a low roller.

Best Yet: Find a teammate/partner. One of you count and deviate BJ, the other side count the side bet. Then you can BOTH sit there and make ~$25/hour while sharing risk and pooling funds for a potential higher bankroll and betting (which would of course lead to even higher EV each). LOTS of options... take a look from multiple angles and see what you might find =).

[Jack Jackson]

Hey guys!

Just had a question about my bankroll and betting spread. I'm just looking to do some weekend card counting with a bankroll of $5,000.

The rules in my area are: H17, DAS, Double any two cards, No Surrender, Split up to 4 times, Cannot resplit Aces.

I was planning on some back counting and utilizing the floating advantage for a 6 deck game with a $10 minimum. The penetration is at about 76%-80%.

My spread would be:

TC+1: $10
TC+2: $20
TC+3: $30
TC+4: $40
TC+5^: $50

I wouldn't play anything in the negatives or below TC+1.

Please let me know if you guys need anymore information. Thanks!

House Edge Per Decks(s)
(House/Player Edge Per Deck + W/ 2-6's Removed)

6 Decks -.62(-.18)Tc 0.8

4 Decks -.56(+.08)Tc 1.3

3 Decks -.50(+.35)Tc 1.7

2 Decks -.39(+.87)Tc 2.6

1.5 Decks -.27(+1.36)Tc 3.6

1Deck -.04 (+2.32) Tc 5.5

[Battousai]

Thanks for the advice. So I shouldn't wait until a TC+5 to push out my Max bet? You're saying to push out my Max bet at TC+3?

[Romes]

Thanks for the advice. So I shouldn't wait until a TC+5 to push out my Max bet? You're saying to push out my Max bet at TC+3?

With such a low spread, absolutely. If you had a higher spread then perhaps TC +4, but if you're only 1-5, you need to get the money out there and it's easy to climb from 1 to 5... 10, 30, 50... for example so it doesn't even look like a huge jump.