Experience with making lucky ladies side bet part of strategy. I am going to be play

**bshoemaker1002** · 10-29-2017, 04:47 AM

Running through 6 deck simulations with real cards if my count is running count 20 and up with under 3 decks left I play 2x50 and side bet 10 dollars each hand. If running count is 10 and up under 2 decks I hit two tens much more frequently and blackjack many times when I don't. I been putting out 2x50 and 25 for side bet running count 10 and up under 2 decks left. Rare shoes over 20 running count w 3 decks invariably becomes over 10 running count 2 decks left. Just two shoes with counts peaking out at 20 and up w 3 decks to play and iI can very nearly double my 5000 dollar bankroll. Lucky ladies payout ..two queen of hearts and dealer blackjack 1000 to 1.. 2 queen hearts 200 to 1...same rank and suit 19 to 1 same suit...9 to 1...any other 20...4 to 1. Planning on starting my play on this 5000 dollar bankroll at a casino that offers great rules...over 80 percent penetration depending on dealer..s17 das split to 4 hands. 6 deck 5 and 10 dollar minimum 1on 1, 2 on , or 3 on 1 with dealer 3 am to 6 am. Can get in 7 to 9 2 to 3 hour sessions before flying home. Wondering what the described strategy does to my ROR th as already a bit higher than 5 percent. I feel its quite possible to double my bankroll with 24 hours of play at this particular casino due to excellent penetration combined with lucky ladies side bet with low minimums and very little heat....any thoughts?

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**Bubbles** · 10-29-2017, 04:59 AM

Are you using an imbalanced count? I am confused why you would bet it at +6.67 TC at 3 decks and +5 TC at 2 decks. What count are you using?

**Three** · 10-29-2017, 05:11 AM

Originally Posted by bshoemaker1002

any thoughts?

You didn't say what count you are using so your count references are useless and we have no idea about indices. Do not make any inferences on your short term results. They are insignificant and don't indicate anything concerning the long run.

**ZenMaster_Flash** · 10-29-2017, 07:18 AM

He is probably a K.O. player

**bshoemaker1002** · 10-29-2017, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by Fenix

Are you using an imbalanced count? I am confused why you would bet it at +6.67 TC at 3 decks and +5 TC at 2 decks. What count are you using?

I'm using hi lo. I've read that TC 7 is the benchmark for making the side bet. I understand true count conversion. I'm speaking in terms of running count just for the lucky ladies side bet. I use hi lo TC for betting I floor my true count/whole deck. It may be the floating advantage but its very clear that you see more tens at true count 7 with less than 2 decks decks left than true count 7 with 3 decks left. Just playing around with the side bet I found betting 10 at TC 7 with more than 2 decks evens out the frequency of tens seen at true 7 under 2 decks.

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**bshoemaker1002** · 10-29-2017, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by Three

You didn't say what count you are using so your count references are useless and we have no idea about indices. Do not make any inferences on your short term results. They are insignificant and don't indicate anything concerning the long run.

I use hi lo and have indwcies memorized -1 to TC 8 including surrender indexes. I don't have cvcx. I'm getting it soon. Within days. I'm looking for advice...maybe someone with the software can help or just discuss if you have used hi lo with success in beating lucky ladies. Sorry I was vague. I'm

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**bshoemaker1002** · 10-29-2017, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by Fenix

Are you using an imbalanced count? I am confused why you would bet it at +6.67 TC at 3 decks and +5 TC at 2 decks. What count are you using?

I gave a poor explanation. I was indicating the most lucrative shoes for lucky ladies have a true count above 7 at 3 decks left and with under 2 decks TC stays above 7 you tend to see much more color. When games are dealt out to one deck or even a little less if the running count stays in double digits you are seeing more tens and catch more suited tens. And blackjacks. Dealer blackjack aren't the end of the world either above true 7 under 2 decks. I read where Arnold Snyder said do not play lucky ladies unless its true 7 under 2 decks.

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**bshoemaker1002** · 10-29-2017, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by bshoemaker1002

I gave a poor explanation. I was indicating the most lucrative shoes for lucky ladies have a true count above 7 at 3 decks left and with under 2 decks TC stays above 7 you tend to see much more color. When games are dealt out to one deck or even a little less if the running count stays in double digits you are seeing more tens and catch more suited tens. And blackjacks. Dealer blackjack aren't the end of the world either above true 7 under 2 decks. I read where Arnold Snyder said do not play lucky ladies unless its true 7 under 2 decks.

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Has anyone played lucky ladies or one of the variations with success. Tho king of actually taking my girl and have g her bet two spots 25 lucky ladies along with my 2 spots at true 7 under2 decks left while we both bet table minimum.

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**bshoemaker1002** · 10-29-2017, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by Fenix

Are you using an imbalanced count? I am confused why you would bet it at +6.67 TC at 3 decks and +5 TC at 2 decks. What count are you using?

Hi lo. Accurately. But there is a difference between two equally hi true counts depending on decks left in play. I think its refereed to as floating advantage. I've read to ignore the true 7 benchmark unless there are less than 2 decks...it is true that a true 7 under 2 decks is reveals more color than true 7 with 3 decks. Obviously penetration is of the utmost importance since this is true. Since I've found a game offering lucky ladies and penetration is consistently at or above 80 percent 6 decks low limit tables I thought I'd give this some serious consideration as I've never played off a bankroll before with goal of flipping it.

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**bshoemaker1002** · 10-29-2017, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash

He is probably a K.O. player

Not at all. Tried it. Can use KO as well as hi lo but gave it up because of missed betting opportunities early especially in 8 decks. No indecies are vague. Went back to hi lo. I m accurate and faat but with 5000 to start I want any and every edge I can get. Actually taught myself Felt count 2 nights ago. Too slow with it but I'm going to be transitioning to it quickly.

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**bshoemaker1002** · 10-29-2017, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by bshoemaker1002

Not at all. Tried it. Can use KO as well as hi lo but gave it up because of missed betting opportunities early especially in 8 decks. No indecies are vague. Went back to hi lo. I m accurate and faat but with 5000 to start I want any and every edge I can get. Actually taught myself Felt count 2 nights ago. Too slow with it but I'm going to be transitioning to it quickly.

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Can I just get a bit of advice from an experienced player if there s one out there? Did a terrible job of explaining the whole thing. Jesus. Let me put it this way instead of giving a life story.... Anyone had success w lucky ladies using hi lo?

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**bshoemaker1002** · 10-29-2017, 04:00 PM

Help

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**Meistro123** · 10-29-2017, 04:41 PM

What's the paytable on the lucky ladies? Usually the trigger won't be until +7 true count unless they are using the favourable double deck paytable for a multideck game, a la casino du montreal. 100% bankroll growth within 24 hours seems optimistic / reckless.