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  1. 10-08-2017, 11:53 AM #1
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    Paddock not a counter

    https://lasvegassun.com/news/2017/oc...-long-hours-p/

    I don't think he was a counter.
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  2. 10-08-2017, 05:05 PM #2
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    The brother confirmed that he was a professional video poker player for 20 years and made millions. I wonder how he avoided being 86ed from MGM like bob dancer was.
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    I don't believe it. My brother has no idea what I make in casinos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    I don't believe it. My brother has no idea what I make in casinos.
    Does your brother hang out with you for days on end, like his brother.
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    A person capable of playing V.P. at his level, with an accounting background, etc.
    would be looking     for advantage at BJ; but his high level of play DOWNTOWN would
    never be permitted at the sweaty downtown casinos if he was a card counter. I did
    read elsewhere where one (unidentified) casino had 86'd him, but it failed to note
    why.
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  6. 10-09-2017, 09:33 AM #6
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    Earning millions from playing VP... How should that ever be possible unless he was hunting and hitting a couple +EV jackpots?
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    Quote Originally Posted by double up View Post
    Earning millions from playing VP... How should that ever be possible unless he was hunting and hitting a couple +EV jackpots?
    It's not. The media, or whoever provided this info, probably just totaled up W2Gs and/or CTRs. Playing a $25 unit, a FH will generate a W2G 1 in 87 hands, and add the smaller frequency contribution from bigger hands..
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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    Playing a $25 unit, a FH will generate a W2G 1 in 87 hands, and add the smaller frequency contribution from bigger hands..
    A full house pays 45 coins. Multiple by $25 will be 1125, under a hand-pay for anything 1200 or higher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peaegg View Post
    A full house pays 45 coins. Multiple by $25 will be 1125, under a hand-pay for anything 1200 or higher.
    Oops, my mistake, but you're wrong, as well. His game of choice was 8/5 BP, so it pays 1K. So the W2Gs will be for 4OAK or better
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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    "His game of choice was 8/5 BP"
    That comment was only applicable to one downtown casino.
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    Quote Originally Posted by double up View Post
    "How should that ever be possible"
    Earning > 1 million bucks playing V.P. from the inception, decades ago,
    as I have heard it stated, is pretty damn easy to do, for those with the
    patience and intellectual capacity to exploit the best high-limit games.
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    @ZenMaster_Flash: I still do not see how this is supposed to work without any +EV game, even when counting in comp points, tournaments, hookers and whatever else he may have been gotten from the casinos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by double up View Post
    @ZenMaster_Flash: I still do not see how this is supposed to work without any +EV game,
    even when counting in comp points, tournaments, hookers and whatever else ..    .
    The value of the comps, etc. when added to the nearly 100% return on the
    best V.P. is an A.P. arena, for those willing to work the machines MANY hours
    daily, off of a really huge bankroll. I would rather have a life.
    game. Not complex.
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