New Member - most curious question: Which betting system to use?...

[NB10]

The first 100k took just under 3 years playing red chip, usual max about $100, or less. I played a lot. Next 200k took about 3 years at usual $25 min. That's a guess - would have to look at records to be more definitive. Just got back home from a weekend trip - about 16 hours play time against roughly $5600, less $300 or $350 expense.

I guessing this amount of time would only be possible if you have numerous casinos to rotate? As in playing this much in one or two would get you noticed and backed off quite quickly.

It sounds like these kind of amounts are a thing of the past in most cases anyway given the deterioration in most game rules/conditions

[vagabond]

300x your money in 2.5 years?! How many hours were you playing/how high was your RoR?

I had around $75k bankroll available at the time when I started but only needed to buy in with $1k and have been playing on the house’s money since. Started very conservatively with 2x$120 max on blackjack and now have 2,200 hours in total table time.

[BJGenius007]

Hello, my name is Ryan from South Korea.

There are few legal casinos here where only international guests are allowed. The blackjack rules for this casino are as following:

6-Deck
Paid 3 to 2
DOA
RSA
Stand on all 17s
Late Surrender
Penetration about ~%70
Minimum Bet: $10
Bankroll: $1000, but I am able to stretch it upto $5000.

I'm a beginner, but I mastered Hi-Lo counting strategy and memorized Advanced Strategy with all full indexes playing Counting
game applications on my phone (haha..).

1. Which betting system should I use? Positive/or Negative progression? Which specific one?

Thank you So much!!

The best betting system (not playing system) is Hi-Lo. If you want to use other counting system solely on better playing efficiency, you need to adjust your betting based on the principle that ace and face should have equal weight.

In other words, because Hi-Lo naturally has same weight on ace and face, your betting RC is the same as your main RC. If you use other counting system, you need to calculate the betting RC. For example, if you use Hi-Opt 2 and main RC is +8, ace side count is +3 (3 aces rich), also assuming 2 decks left. Then the betting RC = +8 + 2 x (+3) = +14. The betting TC = +14 / 2 = +7. This is because ace should have the same weight as face but in the main count, aces carry no weight. (Face tag is -2 and ace tag is 0 on Hi-Opt 2.)

[Freightman]

I guessing this amount of time would only be possible if you have numerous casinos to rotate? As in playing this much in one or two would get you noticed and backed off quite quickly.

It sounds like these kind of amounts are a thing of the past in most cases anyway given the deterioration in most game rules/conditions

You are correct. With my local conditions as they are today vs. Yesteryear, I would never have been able to put in the hours that I did.

[Freightman]

Freightman, did you just start playing blackjack in 2008? I thought you were on BJ21 going back much further than that.

I started keeping records in late November 2007. I was still very much in a birthing phase. I can't recall exactly, but I first started going to casinos around 2006. I really wasn't interested, but my dad, who loved to go, lost the sight in his good eye around that time, and could no longer drive. In those days, I would generally lose between 20-65 dollars per trip. It pissed me off, so I started to research card counting.

If memory serves me correctly, I joined BJ21 around January of February of 2008. I credit that site for huge gains in my game. I credit this site for many nuances that I have added to my game. One is no better than the other on that point, it's more a point of development of the individual at a point in time, when I got booted from Wongs date, and started to participate here.

I never did go pro as such. Not sure I could take the travel grind physically. I rather enjoy the part time recreational pro status that I put myself into.

[BoSox]

I never did go pro as such. Not sure I could take the travel grind physically. I rather enjoy the part time recreational pro status that I put myself into.

That time you got caught in the stall literally with your pants down and no paper, if you used 10 Ben Franklin's, "not 9 or 11" to complete the job, you would have become a legend anyway. Unless of course you kept it quiet.

[Midwest Player]

The best betting system (not playing system) is Hi-Lo. If you want to use other counting system solely on better playing efficiency, you need to adjust your betting based on the principle that ace and face should have equal weight.

This is not true. The Halves counting system is better for betting than Hi-Lo along with a few others out there. See link. BC stands for betting system.
https://www.qfit.com/card-counting.htm

[BJGenius007]

This is not true. The Halves counting system is better for betting than Hi-Lo along with a few others out there. See link. BC stands for betting system.
https://www.qfit.com/card-counting.htm

Halves counting system has the same betting power as Hi-Lo because ace and face have the same weight in both systems, roughly speaking.

[Freightman]

That time you got caught in the stall literally with your pants down and no paper, if you used 10 Ben Franklin's, "not 9 or 11" to complete the job, you would have become a legend anyway. Unless of course you kept it quiet.

I suppose I could have bought in for another grand
Would have been crappy in the count room that night
Oh, the horror - essence of Freightman. Sulphur matches for the count room
Left em a slider

In any event, time to find a new table. Bosox, when did you start getting those crappy thoughts?

[Freightman]

I suppose I could have bought in for another grand
Would have been crappy in the count room that night
Oh, the horror - essence of Freightman. Sulphur matches for the count room
Left em a slider

In any event, time to find a new table. Bosox, when did you start getting those crappy thoughts?

Literally, 2 minutes after I post this - check out this link.

https://globalnews.ca/news/3764259/m..._campaign=2015

[Freightman]

Halves counting system has the same betting power as Hi-Lo because ace and face have the same weight in both systems, roughly speaking.

You have just relinquished the genius from your handle. Please replace with something contra indicated.

[BoSox]

Literally, 2 minutes after I post this - check out this link.

https://globalnews.ca/news/3764259/m..._campaign=2015

Boy I hope that lady does not run in any marathons.

[Freightman]

Boy I hope that lady does not run in any marathons.

If she got lost, her rescuers could be Easily pick up the scent.