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    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    Well to put amount in perspective. This century the Patriots have cheated in almost every game. I am talking documented cheating. Most games they were doing multiple cheats. The severity is also greater than any other team. But that really is a judgement call so not everyone is going to see the same things as severe.
    My apologies for not doing this earlier, but I was busy saving someone’s career today.

    Three, I bet you can’t say the truth in two simple sentences. Let me help you:

    “I hate Tom Brady and the N.E. Patriots. Besides I am better than Brady, and more smart and strategic than Belichick.”
    "Your honor, with all due respect: if you're going to try my case for me, I wish you wouldn't lose it."

    Fictitious Boston Attorney Frank Galvin (Paul Newman - January 26, 1925 - September 26, 2008) in The Verdict, 1982, lambasting Trial Judge Hoyle (Milo Donal O'Shea - June 2, 1926 - April 2, 2013) - http://imdb.com/title/tt0084855/

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    You must check the credibility of everything you read on the internet as over 90% of it is BS. A big red flag is if the source has nowhere to link to who made the site and what they support. Almost always when that is the case you can discount the source as totally inaccurate. If you don't understand how to vet internet information you might want to stop using it to get information. You don't look for info that supports your opinion when searching. You look for known credible sources. Then you see what those links say. Sources that can't be verified should be immediately dismissed as non-credible and in that over 90% BS information on the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    "You don't look for info that supports your opinion when searching."
    I search for info' that challenges my opinions and/or pre-conceived notions.

    That, (for me), is the "royal road" to wisdom.

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    double up,

    The net' provides both a swamp of bullshit and a treasure trove of inestimable value.

    Never trust a "tipster." Do not be so naive.Develop a highly tuned sense of skepticism.

    Cynicism, when applied to the internet, will serve your needs.

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    Are you guys talking about Football?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seriousplayer View Post
    See I am talking about Football but it seem like someone goofy always want to argue when they can't tell me who is the top 10 biggest cheating teams in the NFL in terms of severity and quantity.
    Any goofball in particular?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Any goofball in particular?
    My bad I went back and deleted the thread.

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    Here is a list of the biggest cheaters in sports. Only one is from the NFL. You guessed it its Bill Belichick. The article could have linked any number of dozens of instances to Bilichick but chose the 7 year cheating scandal called Spygate in the article. My guess is because the NFL never gave a max fine to any other coach so this obviously is ranked as the most egregious cheating incident in NFL history.

    https://www.foxsports.com/mlb/galler...history-081211
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    A list of the 40 worst cheaters in any sport in the history of sports:

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/5...sports-history

    Number 20, and the only entry in the top 40 from the NFL, is Bill Belicheck.
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    The list of the 20 worst cheats in sports history:

    https://www.thesportster.com/enterta...ports-history/

    Number 16 is the only entry from the NFL. It is for the entire New England Patriot team.
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    The 7 biggest cheats in sports history. Two were from the NFL. Both were the New England Patriots:

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...eat-teams.html
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    I could keep this up all day. But 4 highly respected, unbiased sources all sighting the Patriots as being the only cheater in the NFL worthy of making the list of the worst cheats in the history of all sports. I guess that settles that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    Here is a list of the biggest cheaters in sports. Only one is from the NFL. You guessed it its Bill Belichick. The article could have linked any number of dozens of instances to Bilichick but chose the 7 year cheating scandal called Spygate in the article. My guess is because the NFL never gave a max fine to any other coach so this obviously is ranked as the most egregious cheating incident in NFL history.

    https://www.foxsports.com/mlb/galler...history-081211
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    A list of the 40 worst cheaters in any sport in the history of sports:

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/5...sports-history

    Number 20, and the only entry in the top 40 from the NFL, is Bill Belicheck.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    The list of the 20 worst cheats in sports history:

    https://www.thesportster.com/enterta...ports-history/

    Number 16 is the only entry from the NFL. It is for the entire New England Patriot team.
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    The 7 biggest cheats in sports history. Two were from the NFL. Both were the New England Patriots:

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...eat-teams.html
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    I could keep this up all day. But 4 highly respected, unbiased sources all sighting the Patriots as being the only cheater in the NFL worthy of making the list of the worst cheats in the history of all sports. I guess that settles that.
    No, that does not settle this. Bias: articles didn't state the amount and severity. The Denver Broncos cheated 12 times on Performance Enhancing Drugs which they take to illegally improve their performance.

    List of Suspensions in the National Football League
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ootball_League

    If you count how many players were suspended for PED you will see that it is in greater amount than the New England Patriots. Yes, you going to say that anybody can modify wikipedia but next to it there is "references" with a number. Yes, they were punished for doing it. This is an unbiased source right?

    NBC Sports Broncos Spygate against the 49ers.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-taping-49ers/

    NFL Insider Broncos fined for nearly 1 millions dollars for salary gap violations salarygate:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Sep17.html
    Last edited by seriousplayer; 02-15-2018 at 06:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seriousplayer View Post
    No, that does not settle this. Biased articles didn't state the amount and severity. The Denver Broncos cheated 12 times on Performance Enhancing Drugs which they take to illegally improve their performance.
    What part of the biggest cheaters infall sports don't you understand. If the Broncos scandals were bigger they would rank higher, but they don't. You asked me to sight examples of reputable sources so I spent a few minutes and only linked to the most respected sources in sports and one in news.
    Quote Originally Posted by seriousplayer View Post
    Sources to support your claim, please in comparison to other teams in the NFL. Otherwise, what you said is garbage.
    These sports cheating links looked at all sports and took the worst cheaters overall. The fact that repeatedly only the Patriots represented the NFL clearly shows their cheating was the worst. If the NFL cheats were dwarfed by all other sports cheats no NFL entries would be on the list. Clearly one team is by far the worst in the NFL when compared to every other team or one of these sources would have ranked another team on the list AND worse than the Patriots. NONE OF THE HIGHLY RESPECTED SOURCES FELT ANY OTHER NFL TEAM MERITE BEING ON THE LIST. Why is that hard for you to understand. They compared all the cheats in all sports for the worst and the only one from the NFL that merited being on the list was the Patriots. Therefore the Patriots ARE the worst cheats in the NFL. The logic can't be refuted.
    Quote Originally Posted by seriousplayer View Post
    If you count how many players were suspended for PED you will see that it is in greater amount than the New England Patriots.
    This is individual cheating, not team cheating. Some athletes made the lists for PEDs. But no NFL athlete or franchise made the list for PEDs because it isn't that bad of a cheat in the NFL. It is a common cheat by a lot of athletes across the league. It is not an egregious cheat that gives one team an advantage over all others. I can't believe you can't understand the difference. The PED users that made the list competed in individual sports and made the lists for that very reason. A look at the players that have been caught using PEDs show it is across the league and doesn't give any one team an unfair advantage. I really hope you aren't so drunk on Patriots Koolade that you can't understand the difference between a league wide cheating problem that gives no team an extra advantage and a team that cheats in ways that gives it an unfair advantage. The guys from the most respected sports sites did. hope that lays to rest you trying to cloud the issue with a red herring.

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    What part of the biggest cheaters infall sports don't you understand. If the Broncos scandals were bigger they would rank higher, but they don't. You asked me to sight examples of reputable sources so I spent a few minutes and only linked to the most respected sources in sports and one in news.

    These sports cheating links looked at all sports and took the worst cheaters overall. The fact that repeatedly only the Patriots represented the NFL clearly shows their cheating was the worst. If the NFL cheats were dwarfed by all other sports cheats no NFL entries would be on the list. Clearly one team is by far the worst in the NFL when compared to every other team or one of these sources would have ranked another team on the list AND worse than the Patriots. NONE OF THE HIGHLY RESPECTED SOURCES FELT ANY OTHER NFL TEAM MERITE BEING ON THE LIST. Why is that hard for you to understand. They compared all the cheats in all sports for the worst and the only one from the NFL that merited being on the list was the Patriots. Therefore the Patriots ARE the worst cheats in the NFL. The logic can't be refuted.
    This is individual cheating, not team cheating. Some athletes made the lists for PEDs. But no NFL athlete or franchise made the list for PEDs because it isn't that bad of a cheat in the NFL. It is a common cheat by a lot of athletes across the league. It is not an egregious cheat that gives one team an advantage over all others. I can't believe you can't understand the difference. The PED users that made the list competed in individual sports and made the lists for that very reason. A look at the players that have been caught using PEDs show it is across the league and doesn't give any one team an unfair advantage. I really hope you aren't so drunk on Patriots Koolade that you can't understand the difference between a league wide cheating problem that gives no team an extra advantage and a team that cheats in ways that gives it an unfair advantage. The guys from the most respected sports sites did. hope that lays to rest you trying to cloud the issue with a red herring.
    Why it is so hard for you to understand. You are just biased toward the Patriots. You saying they are the "biggest" cheater but you can't prove it. After reading all the threads it is clear like Frank Galvin said you just don't like the Patriots that is all. You think you are better than him. Though you were all that and a bag of chips. But guess what you are NOT.

    OH, BY THE WAY YOU CAN'T READ!!! BECAUSE DO YOU KNOW WHERE I GOT THIS INFORMATION FROM???? YOURTEAMCHEATS.COM I JUST USED THE SOURCES AND REFERENCE IN THE WEBSITE. JUST LIKE WIKIPEDIA YOURTEAMCHEATS.COM HAVE SOURCES AND REFERENCES TO BACK UP THERE CLAIM BUT YOU DON'T!!! YOU SAID THEY ARE BIASED BUT RIGHT NOW YOU SAID THEY ARE "HIGHLY RESPECTED SOURCES". SO YOU ARE CONTRADICTING YOURSELF. LMAF
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    Quote Originally Posted by seriousplayer View Post
    You saying they are the "biggest" cheater but you can't prove it.
    I just did prove it in a way nobody can dispute.
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    After reading all the threads it is clear like Frank Galvin said you just don't like the Patriots that is all.
    I don't like cheaters and I don't like QBs getting more credit than they should. Since the Patriots have been proven in this thread by the sources I quote, and I could have quoted dozens more of the sources that are respected most in the sports world that say the same thing, to be the biggest cheats in NFL football and almost every other sports endeavor I don't like them. Brady is given more credit than he is due. It isn't his fault that those that don't understand Brady's stats are because of his his supporting cast on offense compares to other QBs supporting cast so they give him too much credit. But I don't like that he is over-rated even if he is one of the better QBs to play football. One of the things that make a great QB is playing in a way that makes the most of the other pieces on offense. Not every QB will do that even though they no doubt can. Brady has done that and the skill set required is not that high for a QB. He has specialized in quick short to middle passes. Mostly short passes. This is a very effective ball control offense if done correctly. Brady has done it correctly his whole career. But the skill set to do so is not that high of a level of skill. His receivers usually get a lot of yards after the catch. That shows a degree of proficiency at an easier QB skill. Unfortunately for the Patriots in the SB Brady had receivers open by 15 yards or more deep but he couldn't throw the ball far enough. The receivers had to stop and wait for the ball. Instead of a sure TD the defenders closed that 15+ yards before the stopped recover caught the ball. If Foles were under center for the Patriots and Brady was under center for the Eagles, Foles would have hit those deep receivers in stride for easy TDs and the Patriots would have won the SB. That was 14 points off the scoreboard for the Patriots. The Eagles won by 8 points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    I just did prove it in a way nobody can dispute.
    You didn't prove squad! All you proved was that you don't like the Patriots and you even said it.

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