splitting or hitting 66 v 7

[FishBear]

Regarding 66 v 7 in 6 different games:

1. shoe ndas
- when is it ok to split?
- how do i capitalize PE when using hilo
2. shoe das
- when is it ok to split?
- how do i capitalize PE when using hilo
3. DD ndas
- when is it ok to split?
- how do i capitalize PE when using hiopt1 (side counting a,2,7)
4. DD das
- when is it not ok to split?
- how do i capitalize PE when using hiopt1 (side counting a,2,7)
5. SD ndas
- when is it ok to split?
- how do i capitalize PE when using hiopt1 (side counting a,2,7)
6. DD ndas
- when is it not ok to split?
- how do i capitalize PE when using hiopt1 (side counting a,2,7)

I have the exact same questions regarding 22,33,77 vs. 8.

[stopgambling]

For shoe i don't want to bother , even for DD i really try not to think about it. well Sd is a different story and i would certainly use hi opt 2 . Why are you focusing your energy on an extra .2 %? unless you only want to count.

[Fringe]

Nothing more to say after Three and StopGambling. However if you invest a couple of your $5 units you too can be proud owner of one of Norms fine creations. First picture is nDas. Second photo is Das. All deck types. Thank Norm.

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If you failed to read or understand the first two posts, and failed to look at the pictures. The answer is never. It's also, learn more about your games before playing.

[Midwest Player]

Its basic strategy to split 6, 6 vs 7 in DD das game.

[Jabberwocky]

Its basic strategy to split 6, 6 vs 7 in DD das game.

And 77 vs 8. But I virtually never play pitch games anymore.

[weballinoutacontro]

Nothing more to say after Three and StopGambling. However if you invest a couple of your $5 units you too can be proud owner of one of Norms fine creations. First picture is nDas. Second photo is Das. All deck types. Thank Norm.

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If you failed to read or understand the first two posts, and failed to look at the pictures. The answer is never. It's also, learn more about your games before playing.

where did these images come from? Seems like a nice app..

[stopgambling]

I focus my energy on lowering variance for better bankroll growth which also mean looking for higher edge opportunities.

[Fringe]

where did these images come from? Seems like a nice app..

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[ZeeBabar]

I have been splitting against a 7. At least one gets to be a winning hand most times.

[MJGolf]

Fringe gave a good "pictorial". Questions seem answered by basic. Depending upon number of decks and rules. Zee, your answer is too brief because you would not split 6's v a 7 in a no DAS pitch game either. See also: https://www.blackjackinfo.com/blackj...rategy-engine/

Also Norm's book online...........or in print, that black and white chart monstrosity...........LOL

[FishBear]

For shoe i don't want to bother , even for DD i really try not to think about it. well Sd is a different story and i would certainly use hi opt 2 . Why are you focusing your energy on an extra .2 %? unless you only want to count.

I posted my question on 66 v. 7 since this situation strikes me as interesting. I get that the frequency of this instance is among the lowest and thus isn't worth pursuing. However I just want to gain an understanding on why index plays (and even BS) changes significantly between a DD and a shoe game. When I gain understanding there, I can start analyzing other plays in depth as well.

Appendix A of professional BJ suggests splitting 66 v. 7 in SD when the count is 11 or below and suggests splitting 77 v. 8 in SD when the count is -1 or above. Even if the game is NDAS, it suggests splitting 66 v 7 when the count is 0 or below. When 4 decks are used, the index numbers changes significantly. why????

I guess 12 is still an okay hand (as three said), while 14 is worse. However what I don't understand is why isn't it okay to split 66 v 7 when the count is very positive and why isn't it ok to split 77 v 8 when the count is very negative.

As for your 2nd question, I'm too lazy to learn a new count. This is just a hobby I recently got back into. I want to lower my spread and improve my play, so I can play longer sessions without attracting unwanted attention in crowded environments (it's pretty much always crowded). Perhaps someday I'll spend the energy to learn a better count.

[ZenMaster_Flash]

I want to lower my spread and improve my play, so I can play longer sessions
without attracting unwanted attention in crowded environments ... Perhaps
someday I'll spend the energy to learn a better count.

You are certainly on the right track, as so to speak.
To accomplish your stated goals does require that
you learn a strong count to employ. I will mentor
you if you want. Meanwhile Basic Strategy and
Indexed play is different by the number of decks
and the rules in effect.

You really need to read "The Theory of Blackjack"
by Peter Griffin, preferably the 6th edition.
This book costs very little!

Doctor Griffen breaks down the value of each card
for hand matchups in a single deck game - along
with the simple method of converting the values
to shoe games by a simple interpolation.

Note: Only this great book and Donald Schlesinger's
magnum opus "Blackjack Attack" 3rd edition, 2016
publication - (appendix) contain a table of PERFECT
Basic Strategy, from 1 to xx decks.

Those two (2) books you MUST own. No kidding.

[stopgambling]

Perhaps someday I'll spend the energy to learn a better count.

IMO if you are doing this as a hobby and only going to count then yes learn a better count. Why would you care to go through all this effort to get the info and yet use a inferior count . I on the other hand only want to maximize my winning . i would look into any method that would maximize my winning and a very hard count is not efficient and necessary to win at bj.