Repeating subject... Who does cage call when cashing large value chips? What are they checking for? What if you're cashing a few days after play?
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[QUOTE=BJNewbeeNoMore;228789]Repeating subject... Who does cage call when cashing large value chips? What are they checking for? What if you're cashing a few days after play?
Most likely, they call surveillance. They probably see where/what table you walked to the cage from, determine where you got those chips. If they find that you did not play that day, they might question you or photograph you for further investigation. It's just my guess.
The pit, surveillance or both. They want to confirm that it was you who bought or won the chips. If it wasn't you look out. If it was you and you can't prove it look out. They can legally confiscate your chips in some jurisdictions including Nevada.
I have had this happen and I have sometimes been asked by the cage exactly where I played. I refuse anything larger than purple when coloring up but that doesn't stop some casinos from checking.
Someone can elaborate but chips are not considered currency, just casino property. Always cover yourself. Do not hold onto larger chips and never accept them as payment from another person. The average player may not have access to a high roller that would be willing to help.
It's guilty until proven innocent and it's all legal. The casinos' version of civil forfeiture.
Many places the cashiers call me by name because I am usually bringing high denomination chips that the pit has already told them to expect. There used to be a call made from the cashier but now the call comes from the pit. If you didn't know it was happening you would never notice it.
After cashing out more than they thought I left with enough times a call came to the Floor after I had just started playing and the Floor looked right at me. Then the Floor walked directly to my table. You know what I thought. Well we were both wrong. The Floor rushed over and counted down the chip tray. Each time I started a shoe at a new tables the chip tray was immediately counted down. Lesson learned. Just show them what you are going to cash out. This place makes huge money. I never win enough for them to raise an eyebrow. I don't need to increase scrutiny by hiding my wins. They just wanted to be sure nobody was stealing chips or I wasn't colluding with any dealers. The dealer I was playing against had given me an obscene number of dealer errors the previous time and most had huge bets out. It was obvious they figured it out because the dealer was not making mistakes anymore after always having been mistake prone. They no doubt suspected collusion and wanted to keep close track of all the dealers dealing to me. It was either one the other or both. This is one of the places the cashier called me by my first name.
For all the reasons stated above. Also, policy in many places is that Surveillance must be notified when cash out exceeds some arbritary level, which varies based on how low class the place is.
I no longer play locally. The closest store I play at, very sparingly, us about an hour from my front door. Not withstanding the immediate half shoe, low limits, extreme heat (for me), management hawking my game to make sure I don't spread to much, instructions to dealer to deal, to me, more slowly - cage calls pit over $500 for sure, possibly less.
I consider the ridiculous heat here, as a form of entertainment, challenging to pick them for a few hundred, which I almost always do. In fact, one if the worst rulings I've ever seen, which I didn't argue a bit over a $10 bet, was a general manager ruling a draw, when one if their better, from their crop of dumb dealers, skipped my hit signal on my soft 18 v9. I would have hit twice, busting, while dealer performed the identical sequence. Stupid prick called for pit, explaining the situation. I confessed that I would have hit twice busting before dealer. Well, since cards can't be moved back, the gm pricked calls it a draw. Saved the casino $10. Congratulations. Part of the price you pay.
The anonymous one said
Many places the cashiers call me by name because I am usually bringing high denomination chips that the pit has already told them to expect. There used to be a call made from the cashier but now the call comes from the pit. If you didn't know it was happening you would never notice it.
I've had the pit call the cage many times for supervisory presence when making a large cash out. Lesson to all - don't cash out what you have rathole. Save the rathole cash out for another time, or have someone else do it.
That ruling was custom tailored for Freightman. They would gave the proper thing for a ploppy. Store in question is not doing well.Originally Posted by Three
As far as I know, they've booted all the robotic counters as well. A super example if dynamic betting at really low stakes.
In the more modernized casino, the pit boss told me I have to cash the large value chips immediately and also remind me that the surveillance camera will follow me in the route from the sky. Basically casinos know who won and how much these days. Pit boss, surveillance, cashier all are on the same page using a computerized program.
[quote=ZeeBabar;228792]Zee, sometime it is better to let the question pass when your answer is going to be a guess.
They are calling to verify where the large denom chips came from and if you got them from a previous day you will likely need a players card to prove where (game, day, etc) you got them. Without a diatribe about my ongoing battle, I have an active dispute with a strip property and Gaming on this specific subject. And if you investigate the latitude the casinos and gaming have in confiscating your chips you will be highly pissed. I am on a path to end up in front of the Gaming Commission board at a hearing over this one. Yes, I know it is dangerous but I can not play much in Vegas anyway and some battles are worth fighting. I am not one to roll over if I think it is an egregious injustice and this is plain stealing.
They confiscated my 900 (one purple and four black) and gave me a receipt!
BEWARE OF PURPLE AND ABOVE CHIPS!!!
Luck is nothing more than probability taken personally!
It happened to me once. The cashier asked me where I was playing. I said bj table. He pickup the phone, did not dial, that phone apparently is direct line to the blackjack table PB. I was in shock because I hid $300 green chip(there is a word for it), the total amount was more than I colored up. Then I got great relieved when I heard the cashier spoke loudly on the phone: "three black and one pink." after he got the response and put down the phone and paid me. Then I know the cashier would only confirm $100 or greater chip.
Last edited by ellenc; 08-28-2017 at 10:03 PM.
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