My 55 hour trip to Las Vegas-a trip report

[Stealth]

However, I also don't think you are satisfied keeping a max bet to only $125 or leaving a great heads up game just because you have won $300. These days even ploppies count so it's not a matter of counting, it's more likely spread, max bet size and winning chips stacked in front of you.

Again, you are delusional. I can assure you that with your bet spread you are at risk. I played at green chips almost exclusively and 2X125 was a threshold in most cases. I am not telling you about someone firing away with black chips. Even team members played at 2X200 or less.

Also, I assure you that I have a diminished interest in sharing what I know to be true to someone that has a blind and deaf response. Stop asking for opinions you do not want to hear much less heed.

[ZeeBabar]

Again, you are delusional. I can assure you that with your bet spread you are at risk. I played at green chips almost exclusively and 2X125 was a threshold in most cases. I am not telling you about someone firing away with black chips. Even team members played at 2X200 or less.

Also, I assure you that I have a diminished interest in sharing what I know to be true to someone that has a blind and deaf response. Stop asking for opinions you do not want to hear much less heed.

You are probably right Stealth and I am just an outlier who has gotten away playing HiLo (if you read T3, you would think no one built a BR playing HiLo and/or they all got backed off) or playing rated. In my case, it's hard for me to play unrated when I took out a players card from the same chain eons ago and I found it easier to just play rated. I am trying to decide if I should really give up playing rated, refusing request or ID. I do respect you and will again try playing unrated. It's just that the hard looks and scrutiny bothers me and it goes away soon as I show my card, mention I am staying at a comped room at another chain and pull out a dozen players cards from my pocket.

[Three]

I am just an outlier who has gotten away playing HiLo (if you read T3, you would think no one built a BR playing HiLo and/or they all got backed off)

Oh Lord I certainly never said that. Maybe you have reading comprehension issues as well. I don't know why I keep try to answer your repetitive questions when you can't even comprehend what is read. Maybe I will just stop.

[BoSox]

Maybe I will just stop.

Three, without question you are extremely knowledgeable, in all facets on the game of blackjack. This board is very lucky to have someone with your skills willing to give up plenty of his time helping out the new members. Although I take issue with one thing you do, and I mean no disrespect intended because I do admire you. For two damn years now I have read many post by you telling all about success stories you are having, as well as how easy you are accomplishing these wins. Myself, as well as others I am sure are very glad for your exploits. However, when you are offering advice to others, why the hell can't you just make your point, without saying what you are doing? Your words speak for itself, you do not need to add any more. For gods sake casino personnel read these boards, what the hell do they think after reading about your life in a casino? There are plenty of success stories of varying degrees on this board people are just not talking about it for the reason, it is NOT helpful. Sorry if you take this the wrong way, but I had to speak my peace.

[Three]

For gods sake casino personnel read these boards, what the hell do they think after reading about your life in a casino? There are plenty of success stories of varying degrees on this board people are just not talking about it for the reason, it is NOT helpful.

You are right. No worries.

[Midwest Player]

So do the casinos that wish to ID counters.

There is no question about it. Zee, did his trip report way to soon after his trip. Yes, a casino could easily ID Zee if they wanted to go through all the effort, but don't knock trip reports. Zee should have just waited a few weeks.

I often write up a trip report in "Word" soon after a trip, but don't post it until a month later. Also I don't announce when I'm heading out on a trip.

[ZeeBabar]

There is no question about it. Zee, did his trip report way to soon after his trip. Yes, a casino could easily ID Zee if they wanted to go through all the effort, but don't knock trip reports. Zee should have just waited a few weeks.

I often write up a trip report in "Word" soon after a trip, but don't post it until a month later. Also I don't announce when I'm heading out on a trip.

Like a rapist or mass murderer often wants to get caught because he cannot stop doing his crimes, Zee is intentionally being so goddamn open about his trip, his using a players card, identifying the count he uses, his back ground (an Afghanistan physician who got a green card through his sister, worked as a career counselor at a college in Jonesboro, AK, often played at Tunica and Mo before retiring etc, etc) or maybe he is doing exactly what you say, actually fudging when he travels, the state he lives and plays in, the casinos he stays in, maybe even his gender and age or maybe the savvy casino folks on this forum are smart enough to know he is a fraud...or that it's not worth it to stop a small time card counter who made $10-$15k a year after spending 200-300 hundred hours in a few dozen casinos across the USA, maybe he is good for the casinos.

Hell, all the forums and the pros on such forums (so why bother stopping them?) are creating far more idiots who, in their 20's, are quitting jobs and careers to try becoming an AP and in the process losing huge amounts of $$$. Kind of like America got Talent show creating all these people who give up everything to try and become the next success story, to join the few who have actually made it in show business.

Forums are to casinos what America got Talent and other shows are to the entertainment business.

[Bigdaddy]

Again, you are delusional. I can assure you that with your bet spread you are at risk. I played at green chips almost exclusively and 2X125 was a threshold in most cases.

Have to agree with this. I got trespassed at a CET property in LV for playing DD and spreading $25 - $150. I shit you not. I was just farting around with some friends and decided that no cover was necessary at that small of a bet level. So I played perfect for about a half hour. Couldn't believe it when the suits showed up....

[Three]

the savvy casino folks on this forum are smart enough to know he is a fraud...or that it's not worth it to stop a small time card counter

They know the way he handicaps himself takes away so much of his theoretical advantage that his n0 is forever for all practical purposes. That makes him a gambler not an AP. They treat him as such.

[21forme]

There is no question about it. Zee, did his trip report way to soon after his trip. Yes, a casino could easily ID Zee if they wanted to go through all the effort, but don't knock trip reports. Zee should have just waited a few weeks.

Be realistic MWP. You've read Zee's posts long enough to know he plays a marginal game under marginal conditions. He's no threat to any casino.

[ZeeBabar]

Be realistic MWP. You've read Zee's posts long enough to know he plays a marginal game under marginal conditions. He's no threat to any casino.

Totally agree. As you can see from the fights and nastiness that comes out of the big time pros, particularly at less moderated forums, that becoming real good AP's results in personality issues. I understand why Don S or Dr. wong or Norm (the guys who don't get on threads to bash a poster, address the message) don't make a living playing BJ full time. It makes me question whether playing recreationally, making small $$$ is better than selling your character and soul.

[Three]

It makes me question whether playing recreationally, making small $$$ is better than selling your character and soul.

How do you know the assholes weren't always assholes? Perhaps being an asshole has a correlation to either going pro or being successful. Or perhaps you are seeing a reflection of yourself when you look at the world. Everyone does this. When you see someone that is always commenting on how they can't believe people are so trusting, they are most likely not trustworthy. They see everyone else as not to be trusted because they are not trustworthy. If they see things as a rose garden it is because they are nice and treat others with respect so that is what they see.

[21forme]

It makes me question whether playing recreationally, making small $$$ is better than selling your character and soul.

Have you ever considered that maybe it's you?
Do you think those who wrote and administer the ECFMG are assholes, too, because you didn't meet their minimum standards?