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    Quick sim help

    Hey guys,

    My CVData seems to be broken. Can't get any of the programs to run (keep immediately crashing when I try to run a sim). I'm heading up somewhere new tonight, just wondering if someone could help me out with the ideal bet ramp for this game:

    Double Deck, $10-100, 60-65% Pen, H17, NMSE (including no mid-shoe spreading), DAS, RSA, DA2, no surrender, HiLo count with full I18 except never splitting 10s (is this what the Sweet 16 is BTW?)

    Let's say B/R is $15k-20k or so, and aiming for the standard ROR.

    It's the $100 max that throws me, with a bankroll that feels a bit high for a $100 limit, which kinda screws up the ideal bet ramp that I can pull from CVCX online. At what TC should I hit max? I'm guessing maybe +3? What does it say for TC +1 and +2 in that case?

    Appreciate any help
    Last edited by weballinoutacontro; 08-04-2017 at 02:49 PM.

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    Look this over. 65% pen, 20,000 BR.

    Count
    Freq.
    Win/
    Loss
    EV Standard
    Deviation
    Optimal Bets Custom
    Count Count
    Freq.
    Win/
    Loss
    Std. Error Standard
    Deviation
    Exact Bets
    <=-1 39.53% -2.02% 0.01 1.14 1 10
    0 29.03% -0.57% 0.01 1.128 1 10
    1 8.09% 0.05% 0.02 1.126 1 10
    2 8.38% 0.58% 0.02 1.126 3.68 25
    3 4.04% 1.07% 0.02 1.127 6.71 50
    4 4.02% 1.55% 0.02 1.126 9.77 100
    5 1.99% 2.12% 0.03 1.12 10 100
    6 1.80% 2.51% 0.04 1.117 10 100
    7 0.91% 3.16% 0.05 1.109 10 100
    8 0.83% 3.29% 0.05 1.107 10 100
    9 0.38% 4.12% 0.08 1.098 10 100
    10 0.39% 3.97% 0.08 1.101 10 100
    11 0.13% 5.02% 0.13 1.087 10 100
    12 0.19% 4.54% 0.11 1.096 10 100
    13 0.04% 5.87% 0.25 1.08 10 100
    14 0.10% 4.66% 0.16 1.091 10 100
    15 0.01% 6.42% 0.51 1.069 10 100
    16 0.05% 5.02% 0.21 1.089 10 100
    >=17 0.07% 6.42% 0.19 1.075 10 100
    Average
    Bet
    Results Results Results Std Dev Std Dev Risk of
    Ruin
    Perform Perform Perform Perform Rounds Std Err Std Err Std Err
    Bets Average
    Bet
    %W/L Win/Rnd Win/Hour Round Hour Risk of
    Ruin
    DI SCORE CE CE/WR N0 %W/L Win/Hour SCORE
    Optimal $22.70 0.90% $0.20 $20.42 $40.67 $406.72 0.70% 5.02 25.21 $12.15 0.59 39,672 0.009 $0.20 0.49
    Custom $22.70 0.90% $0.20 $20.42 $40.67 $406.72 0.70% 5.02 25.21 $12.15 0.59 39,672 0.009 $0.20 0.49

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    Your optimal stats should be different than your custom stats.

    I would use custom ramp at 10-35-70-100, not 10-25-50-100 unless the heat would be too much. Around my region there would be no problem.
    I changed the Simplify option from Rational Bets to Minimum Chip Size, which made the ramp 10-40-70-100. Then I set the custom ramp to Three's suggested 10-35-70-100.

    Count
    Freq.
    Win/
    Loss
    EV Standard
    Deviation
    Optimal Bets Custom
    Count Count
    Freq.
    Win/
    Loss
    Std. Error Standard
    Deviation
    Exact Bets
    <=-1 39.53% -2.02% 0.01 1.14 1 10
    0 29.03% -0.57% 0.01 1.128 1 10
    1 8.09% 0.05% 0.02 1.126 1 10
    2 8.38% 0.58% 0.02 1.126 3.94 35
    3 4.04% 1.07% 0.02 1.127 7.19 70
    4 4.02% 1.55% 0.02 1.126 10 100
    5 1.99% 2.12% 0.03 1.12 10 100
    6 1.80% 2.51% 0.04 1.117 10 100
    7 0.91% 3.16% 0.05 1.109 10 100
    8 0.83% 3.29% 0.05 1.107 10 100
    9 0.38% 4.12% 0.08 1.098 10 100
    10 0.39% 3.97% 0.08 1.101 10 100
    11 0.13% 5.02% 0.13 1.087 10 100
    12 0.19% 4.54% 0.11 1.096 10 100
    13 0.04% 5.87% 0.25 1.08 10 100
    14 0.10% 4.66% 0.16 1.091 10 100
    15 0.01% 6.42% 0.51 1.069 10 100
    16 0.05% 5.02% 0.21 1.089 10 100
    >=17 0.07% 6.42% 0.19 1.075 10 100
    Average
    Bet
    Results Results Results Std Dev Std Dev Risk of
    Ruin
    Perform Perform Perform Perform Rounds Std Err Std Err Std Err
    Bets Average
    Bet
    %W/L Win/Rnd Win/Hour Round Hour Risk of
    Ruin
    DI SCORE CE CE/WR N0 %W/L Win/Hour SCORE
    Optimal $24.76 0.89% $0.22 $22.02 $43.37 $433.72 0.90% 5.08 25.76 $12.61 0.57 38,812 0.009 $0.22 0.52
    Custom $24.35 0.89% $0.22 $21.77 $42.91 $429.10 0.90% 5.07 25.74 $12.56 0.58 38,848 0.009 $0.22 0.52

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    .38% advantage at TC +1
    .87% advantage at TC +2
    1.37% advantage at TC +3


    Actually this is without accounting for RSA so it should be actually better than this.

    Simply multiply your advantage by your bankroll and .75 to find your bet. Or divide by 2 after that if u r chicken. Looks like you should be able to do 2 x table max at TC +3 no problem.

    See if they will let you spread horizontally for higher counts.

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    Just wanted to say thanks for all of the above from everyone. Appreciate the help - worked out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meistro123 View Post
    .38% advantage at TC +1
    .87% advantage at TC +2
    1.37% advantage at TC +3
    The above looks quite incorrect, but maybe I am wrong here.
    What rules and what count are being plugged-in
    here?
    This certainly looks like Hi-Lo but to have a -.38% at +1 would
    require a House Advantage of just 0.12%

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    The rules and count I plugged in were the ones described by OP in his post. Keep in mind that the advantage at TC +1 is not right at TC 1.00 but in fact an average of your advantage from TC 1 to TC 1.99 and of course the fact that he is playing double deck is important as well +(.19% according to WoO.)

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    Isn't Tc 1 includes 1.01 to 1.99 ? also the advantage at Tc 1 is a bit more than .5%( only an average) advantage . it is something of .7 % if i remembered correctly.

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    start with 2 and forget about dropping to 1 and play as fast as you can may help .

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