Hi all, new member hypercube introduction!

[hypercube]

Hi all,

I am currently a student of this game started with studying Blackjack for blood, Blackjack attack, Theory of Blackjack, and Beyond Counting a few months ago. I originally developed my own version of UBZII with resolution to quarter deck instead of 1 deck for Pivot with drastically improved indices. I trained on this and practice in live games for a few weeks and although it sims very well, I did not like that the inaccuracy earlier in shoes so I found myself making adjustments, at which point it seems there would be no point not to move to a balanced count.

I decided to move onto HiOpt2 with ACE side count. I have been studying and practicing with Hiopt II w/ ace side count and adding a few table composition dependent deviations for certain hands with certain key cards and large EOR from Griffins tables in Theory of Blackjack. Gives a couple chances to make some decision that appear extremely stupid to but are actually correct for cover. I have been practicing the above method with limited spread in local casino a few times a week and have stayed consistently in the black. From browsing the forum, I see some of you moses, tarzan, three, zenmaster, and others are familiar developing more accurate play beyond typical singular linear count systems and I look forward to learning and brainstorming with you all. I reached out to zenmaster as he seems to be one of leading experts on hiopt II and he has been quite helpful in providing valuable advice and direction in optimizing my play for that system, thank you sir.

I do see there are a few topics that there is stark disagreement. I am one to challenge the status quo on some of those topics but in the interest of evaluating both sides, I hope veterans will show patience if/when I get to far outside accepted theories. For example, the theory that shuffle tracking/sequencing can not be done on ASM, and the theory that ASM does not have a method of statistical bias in ordering cards, "clumping" to disadvantage the player. I think there is more to this than community thinks, puts tin foil hat on and prepares defenses, will discuss further at some point.

I currently travel a lot,, and am a middle age working professional background in energy and military (electronics and software design) with family and kids to support. My goal is to achieve a worthwhile amount of supplemental income from BJ, and maintain a statistical edge => 2% in any games I play while maintaining longevity in the few locations within a few hours from me.

I hope I can share back my experiences and offer back value to this community in the future as become more experienced.. Thanks you to everyone who is freely offering their advice here, I appreciate all of you who are willing to share your knowledge and help others avoid pitfalls.

- hypercube

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[DSchles]

Very lovely introductory post. Considerably more intelligent than most. Welcome, and good luck to you.

Don

[BJGenius007]

Hi all,


I do see there are a few topics that there is stark disagreement. I am one to challenge the status quo on some of those topics but in the interest of evaluating both sides, I hope veterans will show patience if/when I get to far outside accepted theories. For example, the theory that shuffle tracking/sequencing can not be done on ASM, and the theory that ASM does not have a method of statistical bias in ordering cards, "clumping" to disadvantage the player. I think there is more to this than community thinks, puts tin foil hat on and prepares defenses, will discuss further at some point.


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Although I am often ridiculed because I believe in ASM clumps, I am the house expert on this subject. Let me start with a story. Recently I had a talk with an old guy who is perfect on Basic Strategy. I asked why I haven't seen him for one year. He said he quit playing Blackjack after 40 years because the randomness is no longer random. That is exactly his words, not mine. I am surprised that someone gets the same conclusion who played a lot at the same casino as me. By the way, outside this forum, I have never talked to people about my theory.

Anyway, this is what I did to combat ASM clumps. Because clump of mid cards and face cards only take one card to kill your stiff hands while small cards have no effect on your play, so the effective count is smaller than its actual value. If you see clumps of 8, 9, face cards a lot on the day you play, you should hit more and stand/surrender less because the effective TC could be -1 while the actual value is +2. Especially those soft hands, you want to double less on borderline double, like A2 v 5 at TC +1. Lower effective TC also helps dealers make their hands. That is why ASM group small cards together and group mid cards/face cards together.

[hypercube]

Very lovely introductory post. Considerably more intelligent than most. Welcome, and good luck to you.

Don

Wow, thanks for the warm welcome. I enjoyed your book, especially the parts about RA indices and also the frequency of hands table and penalty for basic strategy deviations which I am currently using to reduce my indices down from around 80 to something a lil easier to learn!

[hypercube]

Now you got the BJ-sarcastic name-Genius started on clumping again. If this is true and spreads from the one casino it was at you know the "Genius" is to blame. If it isn't true he is just spewing an idiotic idea. Either way saying these things are counterproductive.

I probably made a mistake opening the door for on this introduction thread to get distracted to conspiracy topics. I will keep it clean here and responded on the appropriate threads for those discussions!

[hypercube]

I will emails to those above from new email address, i can be reached at [email protected] regards.

[Bubbles]

Welcome to the forum . I enjoyed reading your intro and look forward to hearing your thoughts in future threads.

[hypercube]

Just wanted to update everyone with results over my first 72 hours of total table play, $5,$10, and $15 table min DD, H17, DAS, no surrender. Avoid .50cent antes 95% of the time. Off the top 2x2units if more than 1 other player. dropping to 1x1 unit when TC-2, spreading up to 2x7, 1x9, mostly sticking to 1-6 unit spreads. I will wong out for bathroom, food, cellphone maybe 30% of the time, but usually play all.

I started with only a $1600 bankroll with the approach that I want to show measurable and consistent profitability at low stakes that would be evidence that I am following a system well and my play is correct and producing positive expected results. If this proves to be successful I could deploy around 15k initial bankroll and move up to green chips. Please note: I did practice, study for 2 months before playing live games. Since then 100% of my play has been in casino and not with practice software products. I have been learning to count proficiently while appearing to be bad player, chat up table etc, while playing. I never have the serious demeanor look that i see some counters have.

My first 12 hours of play, I was playing a customized version of UBZ2 and making several counting and playing mistakes. During this time I found big problems for me with unbalanced count, missing opportunities in the first several hands of the DD shoe. I realized I needed to switch to a balanced count, and had to decide between hiopt1 or hiopt2 becuase I want to add side counts in the future. In the end I decided on hiopt2 w.ace side count as a starting point. Zenmaster helped me out guiding me in the right direction with hiopt2 and I really appreciate the help. Student did not always follow master 100%, and so did develop my own system around hiopt2 which used 9 levels of rounded indices between -9 and +13 TC with about 50 indices. I am further playing around with 7 side count and a balanced RC of 89 v A for betting and playing decisions but I have not ironed out what the system will be yet.

For the current play history, between 12 hours and 72 hours is Hiopt2 w/ace side count and in general improving in overall play and TC conversion with time. The results are below, the variance gods have been treating me well as I have been experience a nice positive growth with little variance so far. The little downside variance I had was a couple times buying the other half of $100 double downs from other players, and each of the 4 times it has happened I have yet to win one. Since switching to hipot2 I have 11 winning session, 3 losing and 1 flat. My simulations say I should be averaging $34/hr at $10min, and I'm at $32/hr with 75% of the play being at $5 min table, 25% of play either $10 or 15mins. So i think I am above EV by about $10/hr. I also have been tipping to much, approximately $6/hour in tips which is not included in the PL chart.

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[Bigdaddy]

Just wanted to update everyone with results over my first 72 hours of total table play, $5,$10, and $15 table min DD, H17, DAS, no surrender. Avoid .50cent antes 95% of the time. Off the top 2x2units if more than 1 other player. dropping to 1x1 unit when TC-2, spreading up to 2x7, 1x9, mostly sticking to 1-6 unit spreads. I will wong out for bathroom, food, cellphone maybe 30% of the time, but usually play all.

I started with only a $1600 bankroll with the approach that I want to show measurable and consistent profitability at low stakes that would be evidence that I am following a system well and my play is correct and producing positive expected results. If this proves to be successful I could deploy around 15k initial bankroll and move up to green chips. Please note: I did practice, study for 2 months before playing live games. Since then 100% of my play has been in casino and not with practice software products. I have been learning to count proficiently while appearing to be bad player, chat up table etc, while playing. I never have the serious demeanor look that i see some counters have.

My first 12 hours of play, I was playing a customized version of UBZ2 and making several counting and playing mistakes. During this time I found big problems for me with unbalanced count, missing opportunities in the first several hands of the DD shoe. I realized I needed to switch to a balanced count, and had to decide between hiopt1 or hiopt2 becuase I want to add side counts in the future. In the end I decided on hiopt2 w.ace side count as a starting point. Zenmaster helped me out guiding me in the right direction with hiopt2 and I really appreciate the help. Student did not always follow master 100%, and so did develop my own system around hiopt2 which used 9 levels of rounded indices between -9 and +13 TC with about 50 indices. I am further playing around with 7 side count and a balanced RC of 89 v A for betting and playing decisions but I have not ironed out what the system will be yet.

For the current play history, between 12 hours and 72 hours is Hiopt2 w/ace side count and in general improving in overall play and TC conversion with time. The results are below, the variance gods have been treating me well as I have been experience a nice positive growth with little variance so far. The little downside variance I had was a couple times buying the other half of $100 double downs from other players, and each of the 4 times it has happened I have yet to win one. Since switching to hipot2 I have 11 winning session, 3 losing and 1 flat. My simulations say I should be averaging $34/hr at $10min, and I'm at $32/hr with 75% of the play being at $5 min table, 25% of play either $10 or 15mins. So i think I am above EV by about $10/hr. I also have been tipping to much, approximately $6/hour in tips which is not included in the PL chart. august_2017.jpg

Great analysis and congrats on the tame variance. But I must warn you that you will eventually run into a steak that HO2/ASC nor any other count will deliver you from. Here's how it goes...buy in , buy in, buy in...red face... "wtf - I can't win a hand?". Go to the next store - same result..."am I making mistakes?" Losses continue...next store - same result. "I can't believe it". Look back on the last 16 sessions and you've lost 12 of them. "Why am I still doing this?"

Not to burst your bubble, but steel yourself for what's to come.

[Freightman]

Great analysis and congrats on the tame variance. But I must warn you that you will eventually run into a steak that HO2/ASC nor any other count will deliver you from. Here's how it goes...buy in , buy in, buy in...red face... "wtf - I can't win a hand?". Go to the next store - same result..."am I making mistakes?" Losses continue...next store - same result. "I can't believe it". Look back on the last 16 sessions and you've lost 12 of them. "Why am I still doing this?"

Not to burst your bubble, but steel yourself for what's to come.

That's when you find out what you're all about. Never thought it would happen, but it did - 3 months of hell. Fortunately, it's just a blip now, though it was a big one.

[ZenMaster_Flash]

hypercube,

I am pleased that you followed my advice Re: Hi-Opt II
and have been fortunate enough to see the improvement
without the thick fog of short-term volatility in results.

Aces & Faces to ya' ... and a few tesseracts too.

[BoSox]

Great analysis and congrats on the tame variance. But I must warn you that you will eventually run into a steak that HO2/ASC nor any other count will deliver you from. Here's how it goes...buy in , buy in, buy in...red face... "wtf - I can't win a hand?". Go to the next store - same result..."am I making mistakes?" Losses continue...next store - same result. "I can't believe it". Look back on the last 16 sessions and you've lost 12 of them. "Why am I still doing this?"

Not to burst your bubble, but steel yourself for what's to come.

That's when you find out what you're all about. Never thought it would happen, but it did - 3 months of hell. Fortunately, it's just a blip now, though it was a big one.

It is a good thing that this board has some posters like Bigdaddy, and Freightman who present the complete picture, and not just the glory side of the game.

[Bubbles]

I've had a good few sections in my logs like yours with nice, gentle climbs. Sometimes I wonder how much is due to HiOpt2 and how much is just my luck. I only have a few hundred hours logged FYI, so nothing on which to base anything. Lately I can't seem to have any results within 1SD. Tip: know how much cash is on your person so you don't have to ask the pit how much you bought in for when the cards say, "Haha, sorry bro." and fall out from under you. I hate booking large wins or losses, so it's a bit feather ruffling of late. The down swings will make you question your game and tighten it up. Many more mild climbs for both of us :-) glad things are going well for you.

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