encountered new bj rule

[Member Name Hidden]

Found a game that pays 5-1 on the insurance bet on condition of dealer having a suited blackjack. Care to take a stab at the EV? I expect it to be tiny.

[ZenMaster_Flash]

The payoff occurs when a dealer Ace is matched

with a suited 10 or Face. [meaning 1/4 of the time].

If all suited BJ Payoffs are paid at 2-1 it is worth 1/4

of 2.35% but this is far far far more.

If suited BJ's are paid 5-1 it is worth 1.47%

That would be awesome, but the game that you are

referencing does not pay the standard 3:2 on unsuited

BJ's and probably has a dealer pushing on his 22's.

This is a very bad deal for the player!

[Meistro123]

that would be pretty good

[Freightman]

That would be awesome, but the game that you are

referencing does not pay the standard 3:2 on unsuited

BJ's and probably has a dealer pushing on his 22's.

This is a very bad deal for the player!

Assumptions. He never said.

[Banker]

The payoff occurs when a dealer Ace is matched

with a suited 10 or Face. [meaning 1/4 of the time].

If all suited BJ Payoffs are paid at 2-1 it is worth 1/4

of 2.35% but this is far far far more.

If suited BJ's are paid 5-1 it is worth 1.47%

That would be awesome, but the game that you are

referencing does not pay the standard 3:2 on unsuited

BJ's and probably has a dealer pushing on his 22's.

This is a very bad deal for the player!

I think you are calculating player's BJ not dealer's insurance.

[Banker]

Found a game that pays 5-1 on the insurance bet on condition of dealer having a suited blackjack. Care to take a stab at the EV? I expect it to be tiny.

You are probably correct. My guess, without simulations, is that if you made the insurance bet every time the dealer had an ace showing, you will have a 0.02% edge overall.

[AndretheGiant]

Found a game that pays 5-1 on the insurance bet on condition of dealer having a suited blackjack. Care to take a stab at the EV? I expect it to be tiny.

What happens if you take insurance and the dealers
bj is not suited,do you still receive 2to1?

[Jabberwocky]

[QUOTE=ZenMaster_Flash;226907]
The payoff occurs when a dealer Ace is matched

with a suited 10 or Face. [meaning 1/4 of the time].

If all suited BJ Payoffs are paid at 2-1 it is worth 1/4

of 2.35% but this is far far far more.

If suited BJ's are paid 5-1 it is worth 1.47%

That would be awesome, but the game that you are

referencing does not pay the standard 3:2 on unsuited

BJ's and probably has a dealer pushing on his 22's.

This is a very bad deal for the player!



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[Jabberwocky]

[quote=andrethegiant

[refinery]

The software does the quoting for you people. What the hell goes on here?

[Member Name Hidden]

You are probably correct. My guess, without simulations, is that if you made the insurance bet every time the dealer had an ace showing, you will have a 0.02% edge overall.

All non-suited insured blackjacks pay 2-1. There is no push on dealer 22. However, insurance at the correct index is where this rule gets good because that is when the big bets are out.

[Bubbles]

Are the 10s removed in the game? I know of a game with this rule without 10s. In it the house edge on insurance is 5.92%.

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[Banker]

All non-suited insured blackjacks pay 2-1. There is no push on dealer 22. However, insurance at the correct index is where this rule gets good because that is when the big bets are out.

Correct and the correct index needs to be adjusted to be lower than its usual +3 to probably +2.3 (estimate)