I remember playing at I think the Mandalay Bay, and every time I surrendered the dealer would shout to the pit boss "SURRENDER!"
I wonder if the surrender rule is there sometimes to just help identify counters...
Its a little odd. Do they use the little surrender markers when you make the call? If they don't then I can see the need for the dealer to alert the pit boss.Originally Posted by paymypush
I always surrender 17 v A in H17 games. At least then they know that surrender isnt foreign to you and not necessarily an unusual decision.
One of my local casinos had the same rule when it opened. Every time someone surrendered the dealer would shout to the pit boss "Surrender!"
It only lasted one or two months. Eventually the casino has learned how silly the rule is. Ploppies are those who surrender the most. At the most inappropriate time.
Ploppies, when surrendering, do in fact make lousy lousy decisions when doing so. However, it is wrong to say that ploppies surrender the most. Many think that surrendering is not part of the gamble, so they refuse to do so.
I recall trips to a particular area, with surrender being available. I was virtually the only person taking advantage if the rule.
I'm based in Connecticut and there are no surrender lammers nor is there any kind of hand signal. The player simply says surrender. Verbal only. In fact if a player says surrender and has his hand anywhere near the betting circle he may get a card that he did not want. It happens often and the floor is usually called unless the card is favorable. Talk about slowing down the game.
Even odder is that for years the same casinos had no hand signal to split pairs. Unless it was 4s of 5s it was automatically assumed that the player wanted to split whe he put the money up. Now they want a hand signal where the player makes a v behind the bet to indicate split. So in a business based on hand signals foe surveillance it is perfectly acceptable to verbally indicate surrender.
Using that option never raises an eyebrow for the average player. Are you sure the dealer wasn't messing with you, trying to embarrass you in front of the other players? I've gotten that plenty of times complete with the eye roll and the dealer pointing out the next card.
I was just at the Palms in Vegas tonight and they do the same thing there. I don't think its to alert the pit boss of counters though on second thought. I think its easy to let yourself be paranoid when you're counting and I think that's how I decided the "surrender" shout was about alerting the pit to AP. But who knows maybe they are.
The surrender rule is there because it's profitable. There are only a few basic strategy surrenders but losing blackjack players get scared and surrender all sorts of bizarre situations. The dealer yelling has nothing to do with marking you as some sort of blackjack expert.
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