Explanation of Moses Column Counting (please)

[DSchles]

Here's my final take on the matter, and then I'll let it go ... for a while.

When we appear in public, some of us dress like slobs, while others dress more appropriately and strive to offer a nice appearance. Before we ever open our mouths, it is our appearance that precedes us and is the first thing another person notices in us. So, some people think that making a nice appearance has value. Others don't give a shit, and YMMV.

When we write on a forum, no one can see us physically, so our "appearance" manifests itself in the manner in which we express ourselves. Again, we can choose to be "slobs" or we can be aware that others are judging us not only by the content of our remarks but also by the correctness of our expression. Indeed, in France, throughout all levels of formal education, student essays are graded on two different criteria -- the first one, "fond," for the quality of the content, and the second one, "forme," for the quality of correctness of expression.

All I am saying is that, if you normally check to see if your fly is zipped before you appear in public, perhaps you could also take a couple of minutes to proofread what you write and, ultimately, post in such a way that, linguistically, your fly isn't unzipped. Or not. It goes without saying that being a slob is easier.

Don

[Norm]

Without slobs, Walmart would go bankrupt:

https://www.google.com/search?biw=11....0.UyE-0hQq_oI

[SpikeBJ]

Thanks Norm, can't unsee that...

[DSchles]

You're entitled to your opinion, but it is simply illogical to imply that you can strive for perfect grammar and spelling OR be intelligent, but attaining both is just too much for one person. That's categorically ridiculous. And, it's not the same thing as saying that you've known smart people who can't spell. You can't generalize that into a thesis.

But, I get it. The best defense is a good offense, and so those who aren't particularly good with language are the first to tell us why it isn't the least bit important.

FWIW, I can tell you that I've had the pleasure of proofreading multiple works for Stanford Wong, Peter Griffin, and Ed Thorp, and all three of them -- clearly magnificent minds -- were extremely accurate writers.

Don

[Joe Mama]

Here's my final take on the matter, and then I'll let it go ... for a while.



When we write on a forum, no one can see us physically, so our "appearance" manifests itself in the manner in which we express ourselves. Again, we can choose to be "slobs" or we can be aware that others are judging us not only by the content of our remarks but also by the correctness of our expression. Indeed, in France, throughout all levels of formal education, student essays are graded on two different criteria -- the first one, "fond," for the quality of the content, and

Don

I believe you should put a comma after the word "remarks".

[Freightman]

Don is right about gross spelling errors on forum posts being an embarrassment. You would think people on a forum of this type with people of technical expertise would know the difference between there, their, and they're, etc. What are people to think? Great at basic math, able to count, but really shitty at spelling and grammar?

Being the resident expert on typos, most of it is auto correct running a schmuck, or was that amok. Sometimes, it's simply to much of a pain in the ass to fix, because it won't.

The equivalent annoyance is trying to join a new forum, with no handle being submitted being acceptable, I once experienced said headache, submitting in frustration "penisrabinsky", and thus, a new handle was born.

[21forme]

Without slobs, Walmart would go bankrupt:

https://www.google.com/search?biw=11....0.UyE-0hQq_oI

That could be renamed, "People of the LV Strip all-day buffets."

bovada just put Three at -800 to get the last word.

Post of the Day.

The one that gets me, and is very common online, is the misplaced apostrophe. For example, I went to two casino's today.

Then there are the incorrect idioms. For example, "I could care less."
One I could not keep from laughing at was when someone said, "that's six and one half dozen," instead of "six of one, half a dozen of the other." All I could say was, "That makes twelve. So what?"

[Joe Mama]

That could be renamed, "People of the LV Strip all-day buffets."


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Then there are the incorrect idioms. For example, "I could care less."
One I could not keep from laughing at was when someone said, "that's six and one half dozen," instead of "six of one, half a dozen of the other." All I could say was, "That makes twelve. So what?"

I've heard someone refer to a reversal as "doing a complete 190".

[Gronbog]

Languages change and evolve constantly. What would have been correct English centuries ago bears little resemblance to modern English. I believe that these changes are driven by the common man and rise from colloquial usage into the realm of formal acceptance. While the pace of change has been historically slow, I believe that the popularity of instant messaging has accelerated a whole range of "improper" writing styles which are becoming the norm for these communication methods. We are now seeing them creep into more formal arenas, such as this forum. I predict that eventually, the most popular among them will be accepted as formal language.

On a side note, someone posted earlier that contractions like "don't" have arisen due to the popularity of texting. Anyone who speaks English and is over the age of 25 knows that this is not true. However, I do believe that they represent an example of what I am describing above, probably having originated in verbal speech and then subsequently becoming accepted in formal writing.

[SpikeBJ]

I've heard someone refer to a reversal as "doing a complete 190".

I am sure he was giving 105%

[Ustonzen]

See i wonder about this - isn't it mostly your spread and then secondarily when you move your money with the count (a sharp pit or at least eye) and then much farther down in the turtley tertiary maybe some advantage plays like splitting tens soft double etc (super sharp pit or eye).

So my question is does making esoteric index plays at slightly different times necessarily fool anyone? Does using a sophisticated count with different index plays throw off anyone besides maybe another counter at the table using high lo wondering why you are making a few index plays differently than he would?

Or does the increased playing efficency mean that you can bet more in a negative count with a higher expectation of winning? That would definitely buy you some cover on a sharp pit or eye but if they see you winning your big bets and losing your small ones doesnt it lead to the same place?

This is of course not a discussion on which count is best but rather in what manner a more sophisticated count adds to longevity

Also if tthree is listening you can pm your answer if you don't want it publicly known how your arithmetical mystical gymnastics throws the pit hounds off your count -scent

Um.. i was kidding about the language stuff. I have two years of french, four of latin, russian basic course from army intelligence at the defense language institute, self stufy for ten years in enochian, greek for a few_ editing proofreading copywriting _ published books, humour articles, and satirical essays as well as advertising copy for 3 d porn ( for a netherlands firm - even though ive never seen 3d porn but certainly not oppossed to it) and im not worried about commas spelling or grammar realy as i am typing this with one finger on a tablet.
Ive had JOB offers from silly message board posts Ive flown across continents and LIVED with people from silly message board posts.
Both don and tthree are right - you can be smart and type perfectly and you can also not judge how smart someone is by how they type - content ovrr presentation might be a more accurate rubric as i would rather have a wrinkly armani suit that was tailored to me than a super clean pressed but boxy monstrosity that i got from kmart (or wal mart or whatever mart that indicates cold and aloof quantity over warm and gentle quality) point is... HOW DOES A SOPHISTICATED COUNT ADD TO LONGEVITY

[Ustonzen]

It's all about how you use it.

..sigh.. that's what she said...

Imagine i would be the only one to get a single sentence response from tthree in the history of forever

[Bubbles]

Imagine i would be the only one to get a single sentence response from tthree in the history of forever

This is an accomplishment many of us have failed to achieve. Congrats.

I agree with Don. How we write, as well as what we write, shapes how people perceive us. Personally, I try to avoid looking like a gangster with my fly unzipped. I also accept I am not an English professor with pressed and tailored shirts. While expressing one's self correctly may not be necessary for intelligence, there most certainly exists a perceived correlation between the two.

It's not all about how you use it. Size matters too. If it didn't, we wouldn't have an endless discussion over whose "count" is larger.