CASINO DESIGNED AND MANAGED BY AP's

[Three]

Perhaps one in twenty ploppies wouldn't like the CSMs-

Most casinos that went all CSM in my region got rid of all but a few of them because of all the revenue they lost. Apparently it just didn't feel like BJ out of a CSM to those that had played for years. Some of these casinos never got their revenue up again once their regulars got comfortable playing elsewhere. The same thing happened in AC except not over shuffle machines, it was about H17 in AC versus S17 in the new casinos in Pa. The players quickly felt they did better in Pa and AC was an unlucky destination. Little did they know it was just better rules in Pa.

[San Jose Bella]

I would make sure every table pays 6:5 unless it's an indian casino just for locals but not tourists. People play at Vegas usually don't come back all the time to slowly lose all their money, so take their money fast with worst rules

[G Man]

Nice to see that morons aren’t just pit bosses!

[Dbs6582]

This assignment is to maximize profits. S17 will drain ploppies' BR slower. They will feel the casino is not so tight and choose this casino over other casinos with bad rules. This is ploppy management. .

You're thinking too much like an AP and using Nicholas logic. A ploppy doesn't think this way. If they did, they wouldn't be playing the side bet. I agree with Masterhoudi, today the ploppies like the side bet almost more than their main bet. This will drain their bankroll more quickly than H17 or even 6:5 bj. The ploppies in my area play at the casinos with the bigggest bells and whistles and look most extravagant. They could care less if it is H17 or S17. I know of two casinos within walking distance of each other and one is H17 and the other S17 and there are many more ploppies in the H17 casino. Why? More bells and whistles.

I think this this thread has some good recommendations. The one I'd add is this casino must have a lot of bells and whistles....and lights! I also liked the recommendation on hiring a good looking dealer at a 6:5 game in the party pit. I've even played that game before. It was a knockout dealer in a bikini top at the pool with awful rules. We definitely need to add this to our hypothetical casino. This table could be 1:1 bj and def H17, probably even no double after split, depends on how attractive the dealer is.

[minbet]

Do ploppies care about blackjack rules at all? It seems like all their money goes towards the 21+3 bet. Also, seems like your slot machines are going to be more important than any tables. I do not know anything about how to maximize those, but capturing those players ought to be prioritized over cornering the blackjack market. Maybe a generous rewards club helps get slot people? I have never had a players card so I don't know their typical value.

[seriousplayer]

Do you think casinos have proforma estimates for the cost of countermeasures against AP's?

That would be APs against APs and friends against a friend!! Then friends are going to become enemies.

[BlackjackFeign]

I don’t know why everyone is saying 75% pen. I would cut out 26 cards of a 6D shoe. Expect dealers and floor managers to watch for large spreads and immediately alert shift manager. This is what Bill Zender did that turned the Alladin around. More hands, less down time, more money.

What Venetian, Mgm, and Wynn have done with all 6:5 H17 on the main floor is smart. Those $5-15 min players are not going to be repeat customers. Especially in a vacation destination.

When I ran an underground casino in college I dealt an 8D, 6:5 H17, and cut out 26 cards.

[Bigdaddy]

When I ran an underground casino in college I dealt an 8D, 6:5 H17, and cut out 26 cards.

This would be the game at my casino. Maximizes rounds per hour and nice HE. And you don't have to worry about card counters at all.

If you're worrying about card counters in this game, consider this:, using a perfect wonging approach where you wong-in at TC >= +4 and wong out at TC <=+3, you'll play about 4% of the rounds and the SCORE will range from 7.8 (flat-betting) up to a whopping 13.1 (using a 1-20 spread), and that's as high as the SCORE can go regardless of spread.

In fact, I'd offer this game as stadium blackjack at my casino where all the cards played would be shown on the big screen. That would sucker in the wannabe counters who think they can play the game at an advantage.

[mofungoo]

Yeah baby - spoken like a true Zender. 6-deck shoes should be dealt to 5.5/6. Just need them to listen and truly understand...

This will work as long as the tables are full with players waiting for a seat, ala Vegas. Smaller markets do better by slowing the game down and keeping players in their seats longer.

So says Bill Zender.

[Three]

The key to using a Zender model is only protecting the game from true threats.Counters with poor deck estimation skills at very deep pen will have a tough go of it and often fail. The swings are crazy to begin with. Then through in inaccurate bets and plays due to the TC being way off and those crazy swings associated with very deep pen are amplified. Since so many would be counters play with an insufficient BR this increases the odds they will bust their whole BR or their trip or session BR.

Without the above you really up your profits from increased rounds per hour but are increasing rather than decreasing vulnerability to APs.

[Bigdaddy]

This will work as long as the tables are full with players waiting for a seat, ala Vegas. Smaller markets do better by slowing the game down and keeping players in their seats longer.

So says Bill Zender.

Nice research on my old posts...I'm ok with that...

[refinery]

In fact, I'd offer this game as stadium blackjack at my casino where all the cards played would be shown on the big screen. That would sucker in the wannabe counters who think they can play the game at an advantage.

Fuck it. With a game this bad, just display the HiLo TC on the giant screen.

[Joe Mama]

Fuck it. With a game this bad, just display the HiLo TC on the giant screen.

Actually this might be a pretty good enticement to ploppies. Imagine billboards with "we track BJ card counts" for you.