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  1. 06-19-2017, 04:33 PM #1
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    newb want an advice on betting flow

    Hi guys

    After been here couple of days i realize there r some real experts here, like don and few others. I thought i was ok on counting cards, fine, i admit im still newb. Could you guys give me some advice on betting flow which im so confusing right now.

    Casino near me only have $15 table, 6d s17 game

    So i play $15 at normal count

    Tc2 - 2 unit
    Tc3- 4 unit
    Tc4- 8 unit
    Tc5- 12 unit
    Tc6- 16 unit
    Tc7+ 20 units

    Get out the table at tc negative 2

    The problem here is.

    1) let say the count is tc6 i bet 16 units $240 which is consider a very big hands for a $15 min bet already, if i win that hand and count still stay at tc6, should i bet same $240 again? What if i win the hand and count go up to tc7, and right bet is $300 now, should i still follow the rule and bet $300 or i should lower my bet since i already win a big hand.

    I heard some people say you should lower your bet to half if you win a big hand even the count still high, because you only have few percent advantage to win even the count is high, so you should keep the winning and lower one time before you follow the normal bet again. I also heard people say stay with the rule no matter how count goes.

    Also let say if tc6 i bet $240 then i lost the hand and count drop to tc4, should i take the lose and lower my bet $120, or i should bet $240 one more time to get it back.

    Thanks for the advice pros



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    Your ramp is too slow. TC7 in a shoe is ridiculously rare, in most counts.

    Quote Originally Posted by abc4000 View Post
    I heard some people say you should lower your bet to half if you win a big hand even the count still high
    Normally, I'm a nonviolent person. But, that advice gives me pause about my life long beliefs. Seriously, that's
    terrible advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abc4000 View Post
    Hi guys

    After been here couple of days i realize there r some real experts here, like don and few others. I thought i was ok on counting cards, fine, i admit im still newb. Could you guys give me some advice on betting flow which im so confusing right now.

    Casino near me only have $15 table, 6d s17 game

    So i play $15 at normal count

    Tc2 - 2 unit
    Tc3- 4 unit
    Tc4- 8 unit
    Tc5- 12 unit
    Tc6- 16 unit
    Tc7+ 20 units

    Get out the table at tc negative 2
    Are you using a level 2 counting system and calculating TC by deck?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BJGenius007 View Post
    Are you using a level 2 counting system and calculating TC by deck?
    Hi

    What do you mean by level 2? Yes i calculate tc with running count divide by deck left


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    Quote Originally Posted by abc4000 View Post
    Hi

    What do you mean by level 2? Yes i calculate tc with running count divide by deck left


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    Popular level 1 systems include Hi-Lo, Hi-Opt I.

    Popular level 2 systems include Hi-Opt II, Omega II, Zen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BJGenius007 View Post
    Popular level 1 systems include Hi-Lo, Hi-Opt I.

    Popular level 2 systems include Hi-Opt II, Omega II, Zen.
    I use basic high low system


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    Quote Originally Posted by abc4000 View Post
    I use basic high low system


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    Your bet ramp is inaccurate for Hi-Lo system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BJGenius007 View Post
    Your bet ramp is inaccurate for Hi-Lo system.
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    What do you mean by inaccurate for hi lo system


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    Quote Originally Posted by abc4000 View Post
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    What do you mean by inaccurate for hi lo system


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    In the sense that your bet ramp is not optimal. Or in other words, it is not proportional to the advantage for the players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BJGenius007 View Post
    In the sense that your bet ramp is not optimal. Or in other words, it is not proportional to the advantage for the players.
    Could you advice what is correct bet ramp please. Thx


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    Quote Originally Posted by BJGenius007 View Post
    In the sense that your bet ramp is not optimal. Or in other words, it is not proportional to the advantage for the players.

    BJGenius007, it is very obvious that the op is lacking skills in many areas, comparable to any beginner, it would be nice if you told the man the truth instead of only implying he just has a bet ramp problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    BJGenius007, it is very obvious that the op is lacking skills in many areas, comparable to any beginner, it would be nice if you told the man the truth instead of only implying he just has a bet ramp problem.
    Well, just fix one problem at a time, then he will get there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BJGenius007 View Post
    Well, just fix one problem at a time, then he will get there.
    So what should i fix


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