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    Look out, complete newbie.

    Hey everyone, I'm new to the forum and new to the game. I have a very basic understanding of the rules and I'm looking to learn as much as I can. I would like to think I'm above average intelligence and that I pick up things pretty quickly.

    I live in Atlantic City and want to give this game a go to see if I can make some extra cash. I won't actually be playing for at least a couple months. I really wanna soak up the basics of being a serious player before I get my feet wet.

    Are there books or articles you guys could recommend for a newbie trying get his head wrapped around the game?

    Thanks in advance

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    For books, I recommend "Blackbelt in Blackjack" by Arnold Snyder and "Knock-Out Blackjack" by Olaf Vancura & Ken Fuchs. Before spending money on a book, you might want to do a little bit of learning first, because oftentimes people think it's easy, 100% money, rags to riches, etc. So before buying a book or doing ANYTHING else, I recommend you look up the tutorial on blackjackinfo.com. On the left side, you'll see "Blackjack School". Click that, and briefly read through everything, don't bother to actually do the drills or practice the stuff it says to do, just read through it to get a decent idea. If you like it, re-read it and do all the drills, practice, flash-cards, etc. If you don't like it, well, you saved yourself a couple bucks! That tutorial is a great step-by-step process of how to learn to count.
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    You also might want to look at http://www.blackjackapprenticeship.c...nting-training for training videos. Also memorize B.S. until you don't have to think about it to use it. Then go to learning deviations, etc.

    BTW I use Stanford Wong's Professional BJ HiLo. His Wong Halves is pretty good too but I would learn HiLo first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdam123 View Post
    Hey everyone, I'm new to the forum and new to the game. I have a very basic understanding of the rules and I'm looking to learn as much as I can. I would like to think I'm above average intelligence and that I pick up things pretty quickly.

    I live in Atlantic City and want to give this game a go to see if I can make some extra cash. I won't actually be playing for at least a couple months. I really wanna soak up the basics of being a serious player before I get my feet wet.

    Are there books or articles you guys could recommend for a newbie trying get his head wrapped around the game?

    Thanks in advance
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    Basicly the casinos will welcome you while your losing and learning. When you become a proficient player or counter, the welcome mat is removed. Knowing this up front, do you really want to spend time, money and effort along this path? If your answer is yes, all you'll need is a great deal of knowledge and a large war chest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by falling star View Post
    Eyes wide open.
    Basicly the casinos will welcome you while your losing and learning. When you become a proficient player or counter, the welcome mat is removed. Knowing this up front, do you really want to spend time, money and effort along this path? If your answer is yes, all you'll need is a great deal of knowledge and a large war chest.

    When you have been IDENTIFIED as a counter, you mean.
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    If you play low steaks ($5 tables), you probably won't be noticed, unless you either do something to make yourself known OR if you're spreading wildly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shadroch View Post
    When you have been IDENTIFIED as a counter, you mean.
    Counters have given the casinos all the methods they use. Any casino that can't spot them is only an imaginary one or poorly managed. If it's the latter, their demise is imminent Having to use camo. is counter productive . Using comps as part of your playing earnings is self delusional. Comps have always been a carrot on a stick to get at your money and will always remain so. The VIP treatment is the casinos showing their trophies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by falling star View Post
    Counters have given the casinos all the methods they use. Any casino that can't spot them is only an imaginary one or poorly managed. If it's the latter, their demise is imminent Having to use camo. is counter productive . Using comps as part of your playing earnings is self delusional. Comps have always been a carrot on a stick to get at your money and will always remain so. The VIP treatment is the casinos showing their trophies.
    You are mistaken.
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    To the OP, I would get both Blackbelt in Blackjack (Arnold Snyder) and Professional Blackjack (Stanford Wong)

    I also recommend The blackjack Life by Nathaniel Tilton. This book goes through the 6 month training Nathaniel went through before any casino play.

    I've heard AC conditions are not good, so unless you travel or have a massive bankroll it may not be worthwhile.

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    Welcome. I'm fairly new myself - I have played "recreational" BJ for decades, but have recently been put in a position that allows for a lot of time, and the proper bankroll to become an AP.

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    Counting is easy. You dont need a book. Would you buy a book to learn how to play baseball? Buy a book if u want to improve ur game a bit or understand the why behind it working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boz View Post
    Counting is easy. You dont need a book. Would you buy a book to learn how to play baseball? Buy a book if u want to improve ur game a bit or understand the why behind it working.
    We're not talking about baseball, we're talking about a game more like CHESS that has actual money on the table. To not be the most educated you can be while risking your money, is foolish (unless you're just playing for fun and don't care about winning or losing). If you wanted to be a good pitcher in baseball, you would get a book about it.
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