Resizing bet ramps

[ferenc11]

Hi Girls and Boys!

Question: How frequently do you guys (especially PRO'S) resize your bet ramps in order to achieve an Optimal Bankroll Growth? Or just how often?

Thank you for any input

[Meistro123]

good question. i'd say 20% bankroll loss would be sufficient to resize down.

[Jabberwocky]

good question. i'd say 20% bankroll loss would be sufficient to resize down.

What about a bankroll increase? Would you wait for a 20% rise or would 10% be good enough?

[Meistro123]

Well risk tolerance and desire for reward are a very personal and subjective matter, there are no 'one size fits all' answers.

[ZenMaster_Flash]

This is, indeed, a private matter; as "risk" is a subjective notion.

Personally, I keep a very large cash bankroll, so I am always betting

with a R.O.R. under 1%. It will take a horrid session, week or month

for me to have increased my R.O.R. to over 3%.

You resize your ramps when your Risk exceeds your tolerance !

[ferenc11]

I hoped someone could give me a little hint at least.

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[Ryemo]

As Meistro stated, the issue is truly subjective and very circumstantial. I know some people don't like the idea of down-sizing because it'll take much longer to recuperate from a long losing streak. Of course, that approach can be very risky, unless you're extremely well-funded. Some people don't like the idea of increasing their stakes, regardless of how much their bank grows. There isn't much difference in EV between someone betting 2x400 vs 2x600, but the increase in heat levels at 2x600 might be significant. As a result, some players prefer to stay in that "sweet spot" to log in more hours, despite having a sufficient bankroll to bet larger stakes. Aside from that, I think the 20% fluctuation is a good point to re-size, but there's many other variables to consider. You have to figure out what makes sense for you and your situation.

[Exoter175]

Well risk tolerance and desire for reward are a very personal and subjective matter, there are no 'one size fits all' answers.

20% felt a little arbitrary in your earlier comment as I tend to be a little more fluid than that in my own, but this comment has a lot of merit to it, and its 1000% right. I know guys with smaller BRs that love playing with more risk, and I know guys with bigger BR's that play with much less risk. I'm more of the latter which helps to stem these tides of variance. I won't exactly have a daily adjustment when I talk about the fluidity, but I'll keep a close eye on the mid sized swings as I'm okay with downsizing and playing a little longer if need be.

This is, indeed, a private matter; as "risk" is a subjective notion.

Personally, I keep a very large cash bankroll, so I am always betting

with a R.O.R. under 1%. It will take a horrid session, week or month

for me to have increased my R.O.R. to over 3%.

You resize your ramps when your Risk exceeds your tolerance !

I play with an almost exact carbon copy of your BR, and cannot express enough the importance of that comment in bold.

As Meistro stated, the issue is truly subjective and very circumstantial. I know some people don't like the idea of down-sizing because it'll take much longer to recuperate from a long losing streak. Of course, that approach can be very risky, unless you're extremely well-funded. Some people don't like the idea of increasing their stakes, regardless of how much their bank grows. There isn't much difference between someone betting 2x400 vs 2x600, but the increase in heat levels at 2x600 might be significant. As a result, some players prefer to stay in that "sweet spot" to log in more hours, despite having a sufficient bankroll to bet larger stakes. Aside from that, I think the 20% fluctuation is a good point to re-size, but there's many other variables to consider. You have to figure out what makes sense for you and your situation.

Completely agreed, and am also very guilty of playing in that sweet spot.

[Jabberwocky]

My big bet is always based on the size of bankroll. Never greater than .5%. The ramp adjusted according to that minimum bet variable.

[Jabberwocky]

I am playing against casino tolerance threshold so no increase can be made.

Yeah some players are locked in to their spread out of necessity and not by choice. That is a hidden hazard of AP play.

[ferenc11]

Okay i see. What i meant was Let's say i start with 6000 (Dollar-Euro or whatever) on a 5 min table. My spread is 1-15 according to the count. I managed to make 1200 pure profit. In this case would it be a braver approach to increase my spread to 1-17? Thank You

[Ryemo]

Okay i see. What i meant was Let's say i start with 6000 (Dollar-Euro or whatever) on a 5 min table. My spread is 1-15 according to the count. I managed to make 1200 pure profit. In this case would it be a braver approach to increase my spread to 1-17? Thank You

Just stick to your normal 1 to 15 spread unless you experience a large increase in your total bankroll.

[Jabberwocky]

You should keep you RoR within a certain range. If it gets too low increase your bet ramp and if it gets too high drawdown your ramp. What that range is is an individual decision.

That's precisely how I've been playing geared for a spread of 12-1.