I asked this question in another thread but would like to hear more opinions. Game selection is very important for a counter.
MJ
Yikes, its logic like that right there, that makes me cringe.Originally Posted by CanadaKevinB
Lets not confuse callous recklessness for "skillful" APing. Just because you like to play "above the radar", does not mean you're doing it "right".
Part of being a successful AP is being able to get away with what we can, without being caught, much less being noticed.
Playing my way, I've been 86'd from a single casino, and it wasn't for counting or even being an AP, and I promise you, I've made far more than you'll ever make, and I'll continue to do so by flying VERY low under that radar, and I don't mean this to brag.
I truly pity those that get his half cocked, harebrained idea that playing larger stakes with larger spreads to maximize their playing EV, is somehow worth more "long term" EV, despite the ridiculously disproportional increase to heat and player attention.
The "right" way to play, in my opinion, will always be that of a "longevity" play, which doesn't have to mean poor games with lower denoms. It simply means to put emphasis on player survival, like RoR and heat levels, before EV. If SCORE alone is determining the games you're playing, you WILL NOT LAST LONG as a counter. Simple as that. For some, that's okay, they only want to double a bankroll and hang their hat on that. For me, this is my job, my life, my livelihood, my well being. Obvious to some, I'm far more than just a card counter, but apparent to all, should be the fact that all AP plays can be handled more than one way, and as the old saying goes, you can Fleece a Sheep many times, but you can skin it only once.
I know a place that deals a DD game to 1.5 pen, with DoA, DAS, RS3, NRSA, H17, NMSE. That's a .45ish game with deep pen, and ridiculous tolerance. Spread $25-$300 all day every day with it, and do it rated.
All things considered, there are few games in the world better this one, and I've been regularly playing it for a little over a year now. Yet, let one "burn it down" player catch wind of it for a second, the game will become unplayable for years. In that year, with say, 400 hours on it, how much EV should I expect compared to someone who burned it down ONCE with a $25-$1500 spread for maybe 3 hours? The results are ludicrous and make me scratch my head as to WHY people think they can just run around spreading chunky green/black and get "more" out of the game than anyone else. They'll certainly get more hourly, but play fewer hours, with fewer opportunities, and ultimately have a shelf life of only a few years, whereas I can maintain 400 hours/yr at this property and just treat them like an ATM.
Exoter, you just keep playing the way you do, I could care less ! What do you know? Just keep plowing, with your head down and your mouth shut!!! You have no idea who I am, and what I have done! You have a big mouth saying " I don't mean to brag" BBUTT- I've made far more than you'll ever make." Made what, far more stupid remarks, far more assuming results.
As far as fleecing a sheep many times story, who is going to get more fleece you or me??? Hmmmm -me !!!! While your waiting a couple of months to fleece your sheep again, I have already fleeced ten!!
You been kicked out of one casino, but not for good play! Must of been your big mouth that got you kicked out!!
Last edited by pilotzone; 05-24-2017 at 10:39 PM.
What do I know? More about being an AP than any AP here on the forum. I know more games, exploits, strategies, and vulnerabilities than anyone. I've been asked countless times to do interviews, write books, essays, and articles, you name it. I simply don't have the time to put whats in my head on paper, and in a manner that others might gain some insight from it. I'm also a very busy human being with insomnia, so my waking hours are spent making money, while my supposed "sleeping" hours are busy here replying to "hardasses" such as yourself, who think that because they won $10,000 one time at a casino, that they are the next Stu Ungar.
This might shock you, but I simply don't care who you are. You make silly, uneducated remarks about the AP world that you clearly know very little about, and assume to be on equal footing as the rest of us, while the rest of us can see right through the obvious facade you're putting on for us.
Honest to god, I don't mean to brag, I mean to educate. I made more money than you and just about everyone else here on this forum last year, the year before, and very likely this year with the start that I've had. I've seen many players like yourself "burn out bright" with the same strategies, who come on here trying to convince everyone that the only way to play is to "burn em down" with high Risk, high EV strategies, with very little discipline and skill to actually pull them off, much less the bankroll access required to actually pull it off. This was evident by the way you attacked T3's bankroll response, talking about his max bet of $500 and RoR of 0.01%, and calling shenanigans on his bankroll sizing, talking about what you'd be doing with his BR, suggesting yours is much smaller. Also suggesting that you are unfamiliar with RoR in respect to actually making a living from your BR.
But what do I know, remember?
Me, by leaps and bounds. While you're out there daydreaming about card counting every weekend or once a month, I'll hit upwards of 45 casinos in that month, and profit $3k on BJ, $4k on slots, another $7k in promos/marketing, all the while earning all the top card levels, ensuring I can sleep and eat relatively expense free throughout the year, as I travel from state to state. Meanwhile, while you're daydreaming, I'm taking 10% of my monthly profits and sinking it into my retirement account, keeping 5% cash on hand, and 5% towards misc investing.
This shows how little you understand what I wrote, and how little you understand the "longevity" game, as well as the "AP lifestyle".
I'm not trying to make an enemy out of you CanadaKevinB, but its quite clear you have very little relative experience here by comparison to the average posters you've been arguing with since you've joined. Rather than argue and "dick measure" you should consider researching some of these topics to formulate better opinions on them. You'd learn a lot from a guys like T3, BigPlayer, SmallCapGrowth, Don S, Tarzan, and even Flash.
I got kicked out of the casino because I was double crossed by a greedy former partner of mine, if you truly wanted to know.I have already fleeced ten!!
You been kicked out of one casino, but not for good play! Must of been your big mouth that got you kicked out!!
No need to be an asshole, Kev.
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