No bust strategy in Positive counts!?

[RCJH]

Bwahahah! Someone let my dad join the forum! (Just ribbing the OP)

True story: played with Dad in Vegas, and he's convinced basic strategy was designed by the casino so we lose. Not mathematicians, mind you, but Misters Flynn et al.

So he employed this strategy. Do not bust. 12 vs 9? Stand. 14 vs 8? Stand. Any small card vs 6? Double.

And he won. A lot.

He has since lost it, many times over.

I think Tarzan would have loved that shoe. It was one of those where there was a great surplus of middle cards. I, of course, didn't do as well.

Just had to share after reading the OPs idea.

[ZeeBabar]

Is there no article or research on the current capabilities of an ASM? Are all ASM's identical in how they shuffle? Could there be a number of shuffle patterns and casinos can select one or more for each ASM?

Why do some casinos wash the new decks before inserting them in an ASM, others shuffle in a set pattern before inserting them?

can a casino change how the ASM shuffles based upon number of players....say a switch or remote capability?

[Three]

Is there no article or research on the current capabilities of an ASM?

Yes

Are all ASM's identical in how they shuffle?

Yes

Could there be a number of shuffle patterns and casinos can select one or more for each ASM?

No. I think the casino can choose the amount of time it takes to shuffle. That just has to do with adjusting for game speed so there is no waiting for the shuffler. Rounds per hour is important to casinos. One of the selling points of spending hundreds of thousands a month on ASM's is you will make it up in more rounds per hour.

can a casino change how the ASM shuffles based upon number of players....say a switch or remote capability?

No. The machine doesn't know how many people will be playing nor does the casino. As we all know ploppies bounce in and out all the time. The machine doesn't know how people will play their hands either.

[moses]

Don S. I apologize. You were right. I was wrong. These guys are about as mixed up as a feather in a tornado.

[DSchles]

Don S. I apologize. You were right. I was wrong. These guys are about as mixed up as a feather in a tornado.

It's always for the same reason, too: everyone just loves the sound of his own voice. There is a sick compulsion to write simply for the sake of writing. Noise to signal ratio here must be 50:1. And the daily display of ignorance is depressing.

Don

[Norm]

I’ve discovered that whenever I checkout at the grocery store, they hit a button under the counter. All the things I buy are recorded and they stop selling them. So, I’ve been reduced to disguises and cover strategies; like buying brussels sprouts and throwing them away later, or buying something I really like, and saying to the dealer, sorry cashier, that I hate these but my wife makes me buy them.

[moses]

Don. You should try hanging out in a sportsbook or a karaoke bar. This would seem like a breath of fresh air.

[RoadWarrior]

So no one will sim my strategy!? Also why people say no work with basic strategy?! I'm not asking for sim with basic strategyy and no bust, I ask for sim with COUNTING and no bust strategy. In PLUS counts, 12-16 never take card! Please someone help!

[Stealth]

So no one will sim my strategy!? Also why people say no work with basic strategy?! I'm not asking for sim with basic strategyy and no bust, I ask for sim with COUNTING and no bust strategy. In PLUS counts, 12-16 never take card! Please someone help!

At the risk of stating the obvious, the gazillion sims that have been run with all sorts of standing on your head shit all came down to I have a 13 and the dealer has a 10, what is the BEST decision even while I know the count. The answer was BASIC STRATEGY adjusted with counting information in all situations. Do you really think the sim overlooked "not hitting" and now you want someone else to dummy up and spend time re-running a sim for you?

THINK, what is wrong with this picture!

[moses]

So no one will sim my strategy!? Also why people say no work with basic strategy?! I'm not asking for sim with basic strategyy and no bust, I ask for sim with COUNTING and no bust strategy. In PLUS counts, 12-16 never take card! Please someone help!

RW. No one could possibly run a sim based on the limited information provided. My simple rule for a conventional count is, dont play it if you cant sim it.

Time to dig in. Your game will improve and the more you dig then more clarity you will find.

[refinery]

RW. No one could possibly run a sim based on the limited information provided. My simple rule for a conventional count is, dont play it if you cant sim it.

Time to dig in. You came will improve and the more you dig then more clarity you will find.

What do you see as the problem with the sim? I started working on it just for kicks. I was editing all of the index tables and figured I'd get back to it later. But if you see a reason why it can't be done, please let me know because I'd love to save the time.

(I'm doing it as an exercise in understanding CVData better and see how bad this strategy really is.)

[moses]

Dont you need to know what count he employs? The game he plays? And rules? Perhaps i missed that info.

IMO, asking someone else to run a sim for me is like asking you to shoot baskets in the park so i can improve my jumpshot.

[Gronbog]

My no bust strategy is ONLY for PLUS counts +1 or higher never hit 12-16! I think there is a huge conspiracy in blackjCk by the card counting play strategy! Card counting works for betting! But the play strategy is very wrong in Positive Counts!!!

This is the main reason I believe that RW is just trolling. This statement was designed to incite responses from the members and we know that he has no basis for making this statement because he has no sim results.

Stealth provided what is probably the best intelligent answer to why this sim is unnecessary. The threshold at which to stand on hard hands as the true count rises has already been determined for each match up by simulation. Different researchers using different software have all come up with comparable results. It is clear and intuitively obvious that there is a different threshold for each hand because the risk of busting and the chance of beating the dealer if you do not bust change with each hand total and dealer up card combination. I'm certain that RW understands this.

By proposing a strategy which stands on all stiff hard hands at TC >= 1, RW is asserting that the index for standing on all hard hands is the same and that the index is +1. This is clearly ridiculous and he knows it. Run a sim for amusement purposes if you like. Perhaps the result will serve to put this to rest.