I have not found a clear source on how much to buy in with when hitting the casino. Here's my situation:
Just starting out, so $8000 BR
1 to 4 bet spread (10, 20, 40, 80)
Small town with one casino, so the plan is only once a week on differing shifts, and not staying for more than 1-2 hours.
First of all, is this situation looking good to start out with?
Second, how do I determine how much to buy in for during each visit?
Any advice is appreciated!
That is bad condition and game , 8d no surrender,6.5/8 is garbage if you can not spread high ( 1-30 , 1- 40) and camp out . if it is 7/8 and you can camp and spread high then maybe it is an acceptable game. i would only play with 1 other player that is only playing 1 spot while i can stay with 2 spots on positives count.
also $10 - $80 is 1-8 spread. i advise you to read the free book on this site and learn more before even attempting to play . You will have a hard time with these games and condition trying to win with a $8000 bankroll unless you can camp or wong aggressively. good luck. if you are playing once a week and 1 to 2 hours , forget it . The expense can eat your bankroll away.
Unless you are backcounting this spread 1 to 8 spread (not 1 to 4) is far too timid to play this poor BJ offering.Originally Posted by pikmar27
But with that spread a $100 buy-in would be fine. You can keep digging for more money and look like a degenerate gambler if needed. If you need to buy in for higher amounts because you are hitting the top of your spread and losing you just look like your steaming. This type of buy-in structure gives the impression you want, that you are not a threat with deep pockets. You aren't going to last long. That the pit shouldn't be concerned about you. If things go bad during a good opportunity you look like a degenerate that is steaming.
All good advice and finally, if you are going to play it, stop worrying about playing it 1-2 times a day, you would be welcomed every day, could sit there all day long. They know that you cannot beat them with that spread, that you might win a few sessions but that variance will hit.
You have a good start for BR, you can wong in (do it at TC+2, sit out at TC -1). Since you will be placing a $10 or $15 bet at TC+2, they will not even notice. If the count stays at TC +2, vary your bet between $10, $15 or $20. Get to $50 at TC+3, get to $80 at TC+4 or higher. If count drops to TC1 or lower, sit out, if it drops hopelessly lower, take a bathroom break, wait out upon return till the next shoe begins.
Ideally, you should never play heads up because you cannot wong in or out. Stop worrying about being backed off. I doubt anyone on this forum has ever been backed off of an 8 deck game with those rules, that max bet and spread.
Would not even attempt to play that game, especially since you have a small bankroll. I suggest saving the money and planning a trip to go play much better games. You can probably accomplish much more in a short few day trip somewhere else than what many hours/days of playing that game will get you.
Is this not a typical game? It seems most games are 8 decks now.
What is typical?
And to be honest I could be slightly off on the penetration point. I am just beginning and getting a feel so I'd have to check it out again. Assuming it is at least 7 decks out of 8, would that make it a "playable" game?
Given these conditions, what would you all recommend as a BR and bet spread and buy in amount? I want to make sure I'm not fighting a long term losing battle.
Last edited by pikmar27; 04-30-2017 at 01:15 PM.
You are fighting a long term losing battle. Most games west of the Mississipi are of the Double Deck and 6 deck variety though some 8 decks exist. Out east, many 8 decks offer Surrender with 8 decks.
Go to Bj21.com, pay $15, download CBJN and you get casino conditions, rules in almost every casino in the USA.
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