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    Advice needed.

    Hi. I am new to this community, but regardless, I began my AP career last Fall. I am operating a two man team (including me) on a 10k bankroll (the amount we began with). Since we began playing, we are still down about 2500 dollars after 440 hours of play, but we are still around 9.5k due to the slowly replenishable nature of our bankroll . We are certain that we are playing correctly and have tested each other multiple times. The rules of our games are sufficient (never worse than about 0.5% off the top). We have experimented with our spread multiple times. I will provide some detail:

    Spread 1: I realize this spread is slow, we wanted to tune up our game before we became aggressive so I cant imagine my EV was anything significant. I believe this is half Kelly? We planned to wong at TC -1, but because this is so frequent and because I was backed off at a local joint for doing this, we decided that it would be more realistic to wong the moment the TC hits -3. So the spread:

    Any TC -2.99-1.5: 12.5 (probably half the time 10 and half the time 15 depending on the mins we could find)
    TC 2: 25
    3: 50
    4: 75
    5: 100
    6: 125
    7: 150
    8: 175
    9: 200


    We put in

    275 hours at this spread and made 785 dollars.


    Once we had become more confident in our game we wanted to be a bit more aggressive, To be honest our second spread still probably was not quite aggressive enough, as I learned by reading through these and other forums but regardless here is spread 2:

    TC -2.99-1.5: 15
    TC 2: 50
    TC 3:75
    4: 100
    5:125
    6: 150
    7:175
    8:200
    9: 225

    We put in 54 hours into this spread with AV -3709


    I then read that one should try and have a more aggressive ramp with max or close to max bet out by TC 4 or 5 so we decided to modify our spread once again. Here is spread 3:

    TC -2.99-1.5: 25
    TC 2: 50
    TC 3: 100
    TC 4: 150
    TC 5-6: 200
    TC 7-8: 250
    TC 9: 300

    The reason we increased our base unit was simply to avoid heat. I have found that color changes attract more attention. Regardless, after 109 hours on this spread we have made 391 dollars.

    Some more details. I do not have CVCX (yet) I used Snyder's frequency distribution in BB on a 6 deck 75% pen game H 17 LS DA DAS NRSA to calculate our EV. My math told me that it was around 20 for spread 1 28 for spread 2 and between 35-40 for spread 3. Im not sure of my risk of ruin, but I assume its high considering were now betting full Kelly at counts of 5 or lower, but I think this level of aggression is warranted at a 10k bankroll. I hope these details have given you enough to help us out. We use Hi-Lo I18 F4 plus all of Wong's surrender indices in PB along with some extra soft 19-20 doubles and splitting tens v 3,4. Please let me know if you need more.
    Last edited by BakaFortuna; 04-26-2017 at 08:14 AM.

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