Quote Originally Posted by Tthree View Post
I really don't think you ever fool the pit. All you can do is make them comfortable letting an AP play. To do this you use a system strong enough to make good money with a spread they are comfortable with. Your top bet is something they are comfortable with. Your bets and plays are not correlated because you have a count that has a top PE augmented by a count that allows combining the info to have top betting accuracy. Your counts will allow you to flag situations where you can make optimal bet moves or plays that look stupid or make stupid bets or plays that look really stupid and costly but the info you gather and the way you use it tells you the cost is almost nothing. Never win too much unless it is all in one shoe. All this combined allows the pit to feel totally comfortable letting you play. They know they won't get in trouble for not acting because you don't seem to be a threat. Reading the pit to know when they would like you to leave is a big plus. Even with all that you can still overstay your welcome.

I just worry about the really dumb suit. He wouldn't realize I am not a threat. He is running around backing off ploppies. Of course in any decent place that will get his ass fired quick but in some casinos there is not a smart suit in the entire lot to know he is being stupid. If your casino doesn't tolerate it when anyone wins they won't have many customers left. If the games are so bad nobody ever wins eventually they won't come back. The casino staff can think whatever they want but the patrons should always feel that the staff is rooting for them to win. Nobody wants to go to a casino or deal with casino employees that openly want you to be destroyed. You are volunteering to play where the house has a huge edge. The house will win in the long run. That means they shouldn't sweat the short run and should at least look like they are rooting for the patrons to defy the odds that everyone knows is a fact of life and win. It is just smart business regardless of how they may feel. People are looking for an entertaining diversion not being harassed or treated poorly.
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A pretty good post for more than 1 reason. Was, for you - brief .
Some good points such as
-you have to have winners among the ploppies. Give them a boost, so to speak. They're goi g to be losers at the end of the year anyways.
-the pit knows you're counting. Don't be a pig about it. Relax, they'll begin to think if you as part of the furniture - until if course, they have to act.
-you can spread, even spread large, just know how to spread. There are tricks to this, that though the pit knows you're counting g, they may well believe you are weak at deck estimation and consistency, therefore, you will be due for a comeuppance..

Some lines the pit gas thrown at me include
Come back tomorrow Freightman anfpd take some more, Freightman, you're better than the book (what book), hitting 12 v 4 twice to hit 4 card 21, dealer exclaims, Freightman is counting cards again - or my favourite on being backed off - Freightman, we can't allow anyone to play where we have a negative expectation.

Would be entertaining to hear other comments along this line.