New Member Intro

[zezima]

I saw another user post an intro type post and thought I'd do the same.

I've lurked the forums for a few days and have been in the process of expanding my blackjack counting knowledge. I've picked up Lance Humble's World's Greatest Blackjack Book, Ben Mezrich's Bringing Down the House, and just ordered Don Schlesinger's Blackjack Attack and the complete collection of The Blackjack Review. I've read through most of Stanford Wong's Professional Blackjack as well as the free ebook offered here by Norm. Software-wise I just have Norm's CVBJ, although I have the feeling I'm going to eventually want CVCX, too.

My current experience consists of several local casino visits playing basic strategy and implementing hi-lo count (admittedly with bare proficiency). I've played $10, $15 tables with 6 decks, h17, das, rsa although I've found myself preferring double deck $25 tables (only rule difference being aces can only be split once).
I know the topic of choosing counting systems has come up many times before, however I've found myself inclined to learn hi-opt 2 for the double deck game. Unfortunately, I've found it difficult finding detailed information on this system (including indices and in-depth explanations).

Anyway, I'm excited to learn more and be a part of the forum!

[ZenMaster_Flash]

Simply contact our Hi-Opt II expert.

ME:

[email protected]

Note: The rather odd use of .com within the account name.

Note: I reject offers of money, goods, service for my mentorship.

[Bubbles]

Hey zezima. Welcome to the forum ^_^. Do you play RuneScape?

I use hi opt 2 too. It was created by Lance Humble. Flash is a good person to talk to about using hi opt 2.

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[ZeeBabar]

Are there anybody out there playing HiLo and winning at DD on this forum? Often, it seems to me that I am the only one playing a simple count.

[ZeeBabar]

Simply contact our Hi-Opt II expert.

ME:

[email protected]

Note: The rather odd use of .com within the account name.

Note: I reject offers of money, goods, service for my mentorship.

Flash, obviously you do not want to be contacted till a newbie gets to a stage with Hi-Opt II, correct? You would not want someone who does not even know the tags. So, should someone know a bit of BJ, know BS, know the tags, some indexes perhaps have attained some experience before they contact you?

[Stealth]

Are there anybody out there playing HiLo and winning at DD on this forum? Often, it seems to me that I am the only one playing a simple count.

Yes, I have a multi year consistent winning record playing DD in Las Vegas.

It is also the most dangerous game for surveillance and for being in OSN. I am in OSN for "other" AP stuff, not for playing DD, while most are in there from DD in Vegas. I play unrated and moderate stakes to maintain longevity and am very cautions about session times and frequency of visit.

Store selection is critical and long term cumulative win (even when playing unrated) will cause a problem. Number of stores that welcome me are dwindling. Rotate stores, rotate shifts, avoid high risk pit bosses, rarely bet 2X200 and never more as you must control your greed! Infrequently use insurance at negative counts and advertise it to set up insurance with big bet. Always play 2 spots, bet big off top when pit is watching and stay at that bet until I lose both hands. Play to a 50K bank and tolerate the ride.

This program can work if you have many stores to play, if only one or two then you are on thin ice.

[ZenMaster_Flash]

"Flash, obviously you do not want to be contacted till a newbie gets to a stage with Hi-Opt II, correct? You would not want someone who does not even know the tags. So, should someone know a bit of BJ, know BS, know the tags, some indexes perhaps have attained some experience before they contact you?"

No, no, no. A hundred times "NO."
I believe that one should do well or not at all.
A capable young student (with the requisite
intellectual caliber, study skills, and devotion)
will do well to begin with (ZEN or) Hi-Opt II.

"Unlearning" Hi-Lo or K.O., etc. is avoidable.

[ZenMaster_Flash]

"I use hi opt 2. It was created by Lance Humble. Flash is a good person to talk to about using hi opt 2."

I first met Lance in the early 1970's just before he turned his gaze from Harness Racing to Blackjack,
with the crucial assistance of a real pioneer, who did all of the "heavy-lifting"; being the first to do BJ
simulations (on a mainframe computer at the Rand Corp.) Julian Braun, M.A. He was the REAL pioneer
when it comes to BJ and we ALL owe him eternal gratitude. I was to complete my Ph.D. under Dr. K's
mentorship; with him as chairperson for my Doctoral Dissertation committee, but that did not come to
pass, as my (very young) spouse was upset about our leaving the country.

He died not long ago. He was a much beloved professor at York University in Ontario.

http://yfile.news.yorku.ca/2015/12/0...ted-professor/

Note: this is a very good beginner's Blackjack book.

http://product.half.ebay.com/How-to-Play-Winning-Blackjack-by-Julian-H-Braun-1980-Hardcover/4889678&tg=info

When I began playing professionally in 1992 I used the ZEN Count, [thus my nickname]
but within a few years I found that my earnings were a bit too anemic, so I switched to
Hi-Opt II and "never looked back." After 25 years I have never once regretted mastering
Hi-Opt II.

[Freightman]

I first met Lance in the early 1970's just before he turned his gaze from Harness Racing to Blackjack,
with the crucial assistance of a real pioneer, who did all of the "heavy-lifting"; being the first to do BJ
simulations (on a mainframe computer at the Rand Corp.) Julian Braun, M.A. He was the REAL pioneer
when it comes to BJ and we ALL owe him eternal gratitude. I was to complete my Ph.D. under Dr. K's
mentorship; with him as chairperson for my Doctoral Dissertation committee, but that did not come to
pass, as my (very young) spouse was upset about our leaving the country.

He died not long ago. He was a much beloved professor at York University in Ontario.

http://yfile.news.yorku.ca/2015/12/0...ted-professor/

Note: this is a very good beginner's Blackjack book.

http://product.half.ebay.com/How-to-Play-Winning-Blackjack-by-Julian-H-Braun-1980-Hardcover/4889678&tg=info

After 25 years I have never once regretted mastering
Hi-Opt II.

Switched to halves in 2008. After 9 years, I have never once regretted mastering Wong halves

[ZeeBabar]

After some initial success with HiLo the first year, it's been a roller coaster ride to nowhere in the past 18-20 months. For me personally, it's been whether I can be successful with HiLo and it's a matter of better discipline, better game selection, more optimal betting (I am too risk averse at times, too not wanting to upset ploppies by doubling A7, A8 when count calls for it, or hitting 12 against 4,5,6 when count calls for it etc) and so forth or whether I can really unlearn HiLo and learn High Opt II and its indexes.

[Freightman]

The better system means nothing if his judgment remains in the toilet.

[Ryemo]

The better system means nothing if his judgment remains in the toilet.

Exactly! It's his weak spreads and his inability execute crucial index plays that keeps Zee from being a winning player.

Zee's problem has NOTHING do with his count choice! I personally know of PLENTY Hi Lo players (many are full time) who are beating casinos long term! In fact, I'm friends with multiple individuals who all belong to a team and they're all Hi Lo players. They're crushing the casinos as a whole.

Zee can't seem to get past the obsticals in his head. And if he hasn't been able to that by now, then unfortunately, I don't think it'll ever happen. But I'd love for him to prove me wrong. I just won't be holding my breath anymore.

[Freightman]

Exactly! It's his weak spreads and his inability execute crucial index plays that keeps Zee from being a winning player.

Zee's problem has NOTHING do with his count choice! I personally know of PLENTY Hi Lo players (many are full time) who are beating casinos long term! In fact, I'm friends with multiple individuals who all belong to a team and they're all Hi Lo players. They're crushing the casinos as a whole.

Zee can't seem to get past the obsticals in his head. And if he hasn't been able to that by now, then unfortunately, I don't think it'll ever happen. But I'd love for him to prove me wrong. I just won't be holding my breath anymore.

I'm also quite familiar with several high end hi lo players. As The highlander Duncan Macleod of the clan Macleod said - in the end there can only be judgement, or something like that