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I don't know how Canadian casinos operate. But in US, once casinos find out you are a card counter, they ban you from playing BJ just for the reason that you are a card counter or suspect you are a card counter.Originally Posted by apkevy
If you are a card counter, you need to have some cover plays so casinos can't find you are a card counter easily. Once you are a known card counter, not the casino will ban you but they will send your pictures to all casinos, too.
Manitoba is crap anyway, go west young lad. I don't see why you would take it to court. They are the government. The court is the government. You think the government is going to side with you against themselves? ha!
Or there is that casino like 40 minutes north of winnipeg. go check that out.
They half shoed you and you kept playing for 6 months. What did you expect them to do? You should have known exactly what would happen next. If he chose to share the info with other casinos you are effectively banned there anyway, unless you are dumb enough to play a game with 50% pen. Oh yeah, sorry.
On a constructive note don't play after you have confirmed they know. Don't make them take further action against you. If you make them things will go bad for you as they increase the heat on you at other venues. If you keep things civil information is rarely shared. All the casino wants is for you not to play AT THEIR CASINO. If they share info you may not be able to play anywhere so you would likely try to sneak back. They usually see if you will take the easy way out but if it takes the hard way they are more than happy to end your AP career except for however long you can play before you are noticed. Once you are black booked or your face is burned everywhere then go back. Even if you played unrated they probably have your name anyway.
I argued before that monopoly should not be allowed to ban players.
http://www.blackjacktheforum.com/sho...asino-monopoly
All of the government owned casinos in Canada except those in Quebec can and will back you off or ban you. Quebec AFAIK can only use counter measures, mostly half shoe. I wasn't just referring to Alberta, although the games there are very good because of the ES10 rule. Saskatchewan also has some very playable games.
Well I won't bother to enter in a pissing contest and tell you what kind of spread I get away with. the point is not to burn your name or lose multiple casinos by what happens at one casino. I have a few BO's. Mostly lifetime win BO's. But I am not in any black books or data bases because I don't make them feel they have to do that. I read the heat and adjust my play to be within the tolerances for the casino. When they say they have had enough I leave (they never actually say anything but it is made clear if you are paying attention. Sometimes its subtle and sometimes its quite overt). I can even play at the sister properties because I know which properties to avoid and which to play. So far those choices have been spot on.
They point is if you have a clean name and face you should do everything you can to keep it that way. I would say that most if not all places I play know I count cards. They also know I will play with a polite (looking) spread and never overstay my welcome. I do a lot of extra work to make sure I don't force them to act or get in trouble with their bosses. They are happy to oblige by looking the other way because I make it so they can.I play some notorious sweatshops and get the red carpet treatment. Every time I thought the tap was coming the suits were gathering to decide how much to extend as enticements to make sure I come back. My assessment of the sweatshops is that they aggressively go after the simplest approach counters because they have little choice but to be obvious. Since that covers the majority of counters they get the reputation of being a sweat shop. But there are counters that play with no issue in these sweatshops because they use approaches and go to great effort that allow the suits to look the other way without fear of getting in trouble.
The point is you need to learn how to be able to have longevity at the stores you want longevity at and know how to play more aggressively when longevity is not a concern all while choosing casinos and styles of attacks and be able to recognize the signs of heat and act accordingly in order to get the most out of all the casinos you visit. You don't use the same style of attack at different casinos. What you do at every casino is tailored to that particular casino. If you have the skills to read pits and develop the right impression at new casinos and know what casinos not to play you should be able to play any casino for a long, long time. Camping out, as you seem to be so proud of, will kill you at any casino if you look like what they are hunting for while you do it.
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