The best games in the country are not necessarily the best games to ply your count.Originally Posted by cc12b
A few comments.
1. One to two hands (as mentioned) in double deck is a giant red flag. To pull off spreading 1-2 or 1-3 hands you have to do it in negative counts as well.
2. Three hands is rarely optimal unless you know it's the final hand of the shuffle anyway and that raises an even bigger red flag.
3. As mentioned great rules does not always mean the best game. That said, if great rules and/or pen allows you to spread more politely or randomize your spread more effectively good rules can be a good thing. Even sweaty casinos with an obscenely great game will often tolerate a narrow spread or a somewhat bigger spread if you're willing to come off the top with close to a max bet from time to time.
It is possible Barona sent your photo to Sycuan but who knows, Sycuan doesn't exactly have a reputation for tolerance. I doubt you will have any issues playing unrated at most other casinos in the San Diego area.
I too suggest randomizing your initial bet.
Come off the top with 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 units.
Best way is to use a watch with a digital
display or a sweep-second hand.
Thus, you divide time (current minute) into
four quarters. When you reach for your chips,
making your initial bet, glance down at your
watch and bet accordingly.
This is good camouflage ~ for use primarily when
the House Edge is low and your Bankroll is large.
I do not know your name but I can assure you that you are now a member of the OSN data base.
Double deck is THE KING OF COUNTER CATCHERS. Start with understanding this.
Next, design your game to play two hands all the time.
NEVER play longer than one hour in a session!
Make a large bet off the top every other shoe and do not take it down until you lose it. Then go to normal ramp.
They catch you because you move your bet up and down with the count. Design ways top confound this. Perhaps, bet uneven amounts on your two hands, i.e. one hand of 50 and other hand of 150 for a total bet of 200. Develop an act!
And for all the new players out there, learn these things before you start to play!!!!
I should add that you are not done as a counter but playing rated will increase your back offs considerably. Stay away from the stores you where backed off or go back only on different shifts and do not play rated. Be careful in Indian casinos as they don't play by the same laws as US casinos.
Last edited by Stealth; 02-11-2017 at 07:28 AM.
Luck is nothing more than probability taken personally!
My 'secret camo' technique':
Bet uneven amounts - with the right-hand spot (significantly) larger.
The difference should be consistently random.
Just "chunk out" your chips - so that the sum is approx. correct (as in optimal)
Do not carefully count the chips, but always prefer 'even' sums.
Of course, I also give very small tokes, but I do so very often if winning or even.
You seem to understand my point. In addition, intro' level knowledge is a "dangerous thing."
So ... the pit critter knows (just) enough to think that placing your larger bet on the right
(disproportionately) reduces the accuracy of the play on the (other) left-hand betting spot.
In actuality, in a shoe game, its cost to the player is a virtual zero, but they do not know that.
I believe the poster is young and there are tells that give him away. However, all this talk about DD games as counter catcher or not playing two hands or not switching from two hands to one or not going from one hand to two and such is just so much crap. With a good act, and sufficient randomness, you can do all of it. Sometimes I switch to two minimum hands from one in a negative count right under the eyes of the pit, often, in the same session, I play a DD shoe starting with one hand, sometimes with two, sometimes I play two hands of $25 and sometimes one hand of $50, sometimes in high positive counts, I go to one hand of $150 after initially playing two hands of $100 each. At times, I put out one hand of $25, the other of $75 or $100. Bottomline being more money on table in positive hands, less in negative ones and an established act. I also play rated at most places.
Basically, you put out the money called for by the count on the table, the rest is the game you play about which spot to put more money on, how many spots (1 or two) you place it on, your act (when Pit is actively looking and when Pit is not around, the act has to be consistent), your story etc.
What you look like, who you look like, your act and a host of tricks plus casino tolerance need to be considered.. There are no hard fast rules applicable to everyone.
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