Super High Count

**Freightman** · 02-02-2017, 06:41 AM

Originally Posted by Tthree

I was sure one of the 3 new posters was Boz.

So, if you were sure, why did you feed the frenzy. It's not like you weren't warned, public ally and privately.

**Norm** · 02-02-2017, 06:46 AM

Enough

**Stealth** · 02-02-2017, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by Allbizness

Dude I lost 13 hands in a row, then pushed, then lost the next 3, then pushed again. Then I won on the 19th hand. That's my record.

I was being facetious. When you have played enough you will have seen everything you think impossible.

**Koz84** · 02-02-2017, 09:29 PM

I believe I once got to a +64 running half way through an 8 deck game.

**NotEnoughHeat** · 02-03-2017, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by Koz84

I believe I once got to a +64 running half way through an 8 deck game.

With hi lo or a level 2 count? Still seems surprising in any case.

**Koz84** · 02-03-2017, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by NotEnoughHeat

With hi lo or a level 2 count? Still seems surprising in any case.

Level 2 count. And yes, certainty hasn't happened again.

**pilotzone** · 02-03-2017, 10:31 PM

Hate to tell you, but you are suppose to lose when you are betting and betting and now the running count is plus 30!!!!

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**ZeeBabar** · 02-04-2017, 03:16 AM

Originally Posted by CanadaKevinB

Hate to tell you, but you are suppose to lose when you are betting and betting and now the running count is plus 30!!!!

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Yup! Small cards keep coming out, count keeps getting higher so at end of shoe, put the big money out and get ready to run.

**Three** · 02-04-2017, 04:46 AM

Usually when I see monster counts so high it makes me wonder if I blew the count, it is usually relatively early in the shoe. When I say relative I mean you would assume it would happen after most of the cards are dealt but is happens 2.5 to 3 decks into an 8 deck shoe.

**Bigdaddy** · 02-04-2017, 05:38 AM

Like Tthree, when that stupid-high count happened, I was in such strange territory that I thought I blew the count. Anyway, I don't remember specific hands much, but I do remember that occasion and going to super-max bet (2 x $250). I was dealt A9 and a BJ. Dealer had 5, so I doubled the A9 and pulled a 9. Dealer did what he was supposed to do in that situation - turned over a 10 and took another brick. Yahoo! I was out of there quick after that...

**Frank Galvin** · 02-04-2017, 07:09 AM

Went yesterday to a local native tribal casino, first time in awhile.

I sat down at a table, got heads up. Conditions are not the best there, reason why I haven't played much lately. ASMs, 6D, 3:2 (yay), H17, NS, DA2, SA1, DAS, 66-75% pen (dealer dependent despite notches on shoe).

Without exposing the counting system, needless to say, after the first deck, the RC went into ridiculous territory. Only saw 1 Ace at that point, and 3 tens/faces. Lots of 2-9 cards. So I let my bets fly.

Spreading from $25 to 2*$300, and other times, table max of $500. Table was $10-$500. They changed table for me to $25 min NMSE when my big bets came out as NMSE. So heads up.

Well you know what happened push, after push, after 4:1 dealer to player blackjacks, to losses, to more pushes and only a few wins, with the shoe remaining quite player friendly until the cut card came. Cards went back into the ASM, and I walked away having lost just under 100 betting units.

Times like that truly make you rethink your abilities and focus!

**Joe Mama** · 02-04-2017, 09:13 AM

Had similar incident recently, got spanked 70 units in ~15-20 minutes. I have to remember that logically the worst spankings always occur when the count is high, although the emotional part of my brain causes me to question this logic.

**Freightman** · 02-04-2017, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by CanadaKevinB

Hate to tell you, but you are suppose to lose when you are betting and betting and now the running count is plus 30!!!!

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Interesting - caution to be excercised here. The count keeps rising, hand after hand after hand. Will the count peak before the shoe ends, or will every single high value card be stuck behind the cut card. Do you keep blasting hand after hand, losing - leaving the store with skid marks in your shorts, or is their vindication with good wins justifying your faith in the math.

Sometimes the answer is clear, sometimes not. If it's your first shoe, it's either going to be a big winner or a big loser. Or, is there a history or pattern that you've gleaned over several shoes. You can't blast from min to super max - maybe it's time for the "waiting big bet" which can be parlayed into the max, and then super max. This is a nuance that helps in beating the sims. Concept is best in hand shuffled shoes, yet there is merit in the "mirror effect" of certain ASM's. Food for thought, especially for those with imagination.