Kicking out a red chipper!
https://youtu.be/xB8z7psEyYU
Kicking out a red chipper!
https://youtu.be/xB8z7psEyYU
I'd be curios to know first-hand from the "Professional" / his friend what visible cues (if any) he / they observed before the tap came. I and others that have played there and have seen things like suits leaning with their chest on the back of a chair, completely and obviously hanging over the table where suspected AP is playing, a suit appearing out of no where and just standing 15-20 feet away from the table watching the suspected AP / his play intently, etc. What else?Originally Posted by Halbruno
They kicked him out due to a back-off 2 years before. His arguing with them and then going to the cage while arguing some more is indicative of his low level of understanding. He cashed out about $160 in red chips, calling these people AP is a disservice to real AP's.
He was behaving badly in that situation, but casinos spending time and money on these guys is indicative of who the real idiots are!
Luck is nothing more than probability taken personally!
After watching his other videos he was probably backed off for being a nuisance to ploppies at the table rather than being deemed a true threat. Foxwoods generally let bad counters like this guy play but he was causing issues at the table by verbally attacking ploppies in an insulting way.
Last edited by Three; 01-25-2017 at 11:49 AM.
Hahaha. I know what moire lines are and I have never heard that expression. Pretty funny. I just know from personal experience you have got to be good and have good results to get backed off in most Zender Model casinos, of which Foxwoods is one. They let bad counters play and lose their BR. If you show you can win consistently at amounts high enough Zender Model casinos don't care how bad you appear to be. They let the counters that aren't a true threat play while taking swift action on those that are deemed true threats. I also know from experience a casino that knows what you are doing and has been tolerating your play can turn on you the second you become a disruption nuisance. From what we have seen I believe his back offs came as a result of being a disruption while being a low level unsuccessful counter that isn't a true threat. You can't go in and cause trouble with other patrons but you can deal with troubling patrons that are a disruption for everyone else. I have played with bad counters that proclaim they count at the table. The smart casinos see them as cash cows. I have played in casinos that proclaim to their customers that the game is beatable if you pay attention to the cards played. they dare you to try. These smart casinos know most counters will not be successful and will lose their BR. They will lose it to them if they keep them coming back unmolested. This guy looks like the classic counter that learned just enough to be his own worst enemy. Smart casinos, like Foxwoods would welcome him with open arms so he must have been a disruption that they didn't want to tolerate.
I don't know about Foxwoods, but I recently got tossed out (with "extreme prejudice") of what I thought was a fairly tolerant casino, and I was playing at low stakes (under $200). Moral of the story - be careful about assuming tolerance. If they (EITS) can confirm that you're moving your bet with the count, you're out...
Next stage in my AP development is betting and playing cover...
Ok guys - a little more info. I hope it helps you avoid my mistakes...
This was a Vegas strip casino DD game (I know - I'm a dumb ass). It was about one hour into the session. There was zero apparent heat from the dealer/floor. My demise obviously came from EITS. Either I was picked off from my perfect moving of bet with count (HO2/ASC), and/or my face was picked off from playing around the strip that weekend (or previous trips - I work the strip about 4 times a year). Of course, I was playing anonymous.
Suit comes up from behind me (acting really pissed off) and he pushed my chips out for coloring up. I pocket my chips and turn around to face two suits and security (yellow) man right behind my chair. Yellow man reads me the bla, bla, bla...., and I say goodbye....
I agree with Tthree on this one. From what I've seen of this guy's videos, he seems like be a disruptive/controversial player. So even if you're a break-even player AND you're a pain in the ass, most casinos won't put up with you probably. In their eyes, you're a douche bag taking up valuable real estate (i.e. a spot where a real ploppy could be playing).
And regarding Vegas... M*L*ife props will not tolerate you AT ALL. Not even on 6D, let alone DD. I'm convinced that it's almost impossible to play their properties at all anymore. You're lucky to get more than 1 shoe on any given trip now. I'm giving up on playing certain strip properties anymore. DD or even 6D. Most of my strip BOs took place in less than 20 or 30 min. I got backed off at the B*ella*gio before I could even place my first bet, and I only played one max bet cycle at a sister property earlier that day.
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