Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
I don't know much at all about hole carding. My understanding is that it's possible to spot the hole card based upon two or three things. One is when, due to poor dealer skills, the hole card could be seen (usually from first base) and another is when a partner or someone standing or sitting elsewhere (another nearby table) Ivan see and signals a player as to what he sees as the hole card.

Thus, I don't understand how you can be backed off or called a cheater because you were able to see the holecard and why that cannot be handled by simply removing the dealer (send him for extra training or firing him)and sending another to a table. Basically, I thought hole carding was probably due to correctable dealer skills and could be eliminated without need to back off anyone.

Maybe its the card counting that got him in trouble.
Getting the holecard when not seated at the flashing dealer’s table and sending the info to a BP is called spooking and it’s very much illegal, don’t do it. I’ve passed up many of those spots. Not worth it.