I don't know about this capping stuff but I have seen folks do it and use the smaller chips for tokes and sidebets. For example, getting a BJ on a $425 bet would get you two reds, 2 whites and a .50 cent coin. You then toke the dealer a $5 chip, play $5 on side bet, place 2 white chips bet for dealer in next hand, the dealer appreciates it.
yeah this is always weird. i just try to keep them in my hand (concealed, but not like i'm trying to) and dig out more money. unless it's too many chips that i can't keep in my hand while counting money, in which i just go all in.Originally Posted by Cardguy
and session length is way overrated. i def take it to the other extreme, but that's cuz bj is not my source of income, so heat doesn't bother me. but yeah, imo playing long sessions with low winrates as opposed to short sessions with more aggro strategies isn't the way to go imo. just gives them more time to monitor your play.
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Question: "How Do You Bet $500 Without Drawing Attention?"
Answer: Don't play in shit holes or sweat shops. And if you do, adjust your stakes to fit that casino's comfort level.
That's what I do. Search for tolerance. When you find it, blast away. If the casino is not tolerant, keep it small or just don't play at all.
It's okay to overbet and underbet sometimes, assuming you're playing a game with a decent edge and are playing less than full kelly. If your ramp says to bet $500, bet $500 if you have plenty of chips, simple. If you have $600 or less, bet it all. If you have more than $600 but no more than $1k, bet half. If you have $1200 in chips, you can bet $400 to keep 2 more bets, or $600 so you have one more bet. If you bet $500 and double down (or split) and lose both, you'll have $200, an awkward amount to have when wanting to bet $500. Bet in a way so that if you lose, you don't have an amount significantly less than what you want to be betting (like $100 when you wanna be betting $500). When you're out of money, buy in again. I'd say $500, $1k, or $1.5k if betting $500.
I try to get "black action" called as soon as I can. Boss may watch for a round or 2, note I'm betting black sometimes and green other times, then go on his way. Then later on when I want to bet $200 or $300, dealer isn't as likely to call "black action" if I bet it in black.
As far as doing it without drawing attention, either do what Ryemo said and find a tolerant store, or deal with it. Although going unnoticed is (IMO) probably always best....that doesn't mean all attention is bad attention, per se. Lots of attention isn't good (unless they're fawning over you and giving you the red carpet treatment). It very well may be the boss needs to approve the buy-in then he goes on his merry way, watching his awful baccarat dealer....or he may just be sweating the money, something bosses do regardless of game....doesn't mean they are necessarily thinking you're a CC.
I wouldn't regularly bet green & black together. I do it occasionally if I have no other option for that hand...but I'm not going to continue to bet 2 black with 4 green whenever I wanna bet $300. I'll do it once, then if I win, I'll either have $400 in green and $200 in black (unlikely), $200 green and $400 black, or $100 green and $500 black....in which case I'd bet $300 of just 1 color.
Betting multiple colors slows down the game....something you don't want to do (decrease hourly EV). You especially don't want to slow the game when you're betting larger amounts. Also don't want ploppies to jump into your game if playing with open seats. You wanna play those rounds as quickly as possible, so pit bosses and surveillance have less time to see what you're doing and look into it. I don't know how much slower the game is when betting multi colored stacks, as it'd be different for every dealer and how they deal with it (do they just do color for color, do they cut it down every time, or will they just off set every 4 or 5 chips leave them be and pay without doing it again next round?). It may not even be a huge deal. But I'd rather get in and out as quickly as possible.
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Just do it, there is no getting around it. You could maybe bet 1x$100 in black on the first or second hand to get the black action call out of the way up front, that would make the pit less likely to react to your black action later on in the shoe. I'd just stay all green and keep my bets to 2x$250 or so max then start asking the dealer for black, then when you get a solid count just parlay straight to 2x$500 if the dealer pays your winning hand with two blacks and two greens just stack everything up. If you lose hopefully you will have gotten rid of most of your green by that point and can just bet black. If you're out of chips and the count skyrockets buy-in for $1000 and just put out 2x$500 like you're steaming. In short, quit thinking so hard about it, lay the groundwork to make it look like you have no choice but to bet black. Then just do it.
One more thing, I agree, never bet an odd amount or rainbow your chips for no good reason. It slows down payoffs, the dealer has to break down your bets for the eye and blackjack payoffs become oddball which takes time. Think about it, does 5 black look like $500 or $400 from a camera shot straight overhead. Best thing you can do is to just take your bet down after every win and make a new bet keeping your hand over top of your wager to hide it while you drop it straight down into the betting circle.
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