Originally Posted by
RollingStoned
Casinos (not all, or maybe even just few) absolutely 100000% cheat. I don't know how often in Blackjack, I assume not much. But with machine play, promotions, drawings, etc. they absolutely cheat.
Someone I was taking action on in a drawing got picked first, drawing clearly stated first person picked gets top prize. He got bottom prize. Same thing at a sister property....where a random ploppy got picked first and got top prize, even though that one stated it was the other way around (first picked gets bottom prize, last picked gets top prize).
Got screwed on some money on a promotion. After playing for many hours, was told the game I'd been playing was no longer eligible and my last 1 hour of play wouldn't be counted (but everything before that was, due to a delay in how the promotion ran. I checked the day before and day of promo, where they said all machines were eligible.
How many people got screwed at the revel?
Destroyed one casino that was giving out lots of FP every day based on previous play (part of a promo). Then they tried shutting down my card because I wasn't giving them additional action. Only good game to pick up FP was at the bar....bartender who "ratted" on me started making $0/day in tips instead of $10/day. Casino also tried to disqualify the game I played in the promo from being eligible, which is illegal the way the promo was set up. Luckily I didn't have much more play to go through to be eligible for the promo, so I finished on an inferior game. Then they took that game out, but hey, I was already done!
Gotten free play shut off after playing a loss rebate. Another casino making it extremely difficult to collect on a promo (going from no limit in FP per day to like $100, then shutting off pin every day, then having to go back to boothlings to get it fixed and manager would take his sweet ass time (2 hours) to unlock the card)......at least gaming sided with us on that one.
Unfortunately, gaming can be extremely difficult to deal with. They don't know what is even going on. For instance, they have a royal promotion where if you hit 2 in one week you get paid double or something. You do it, get no paid, call gaming. And gaming is like "well what's the problem? it's just a promotion and extra money, it's not like they cheated you out of money you actually won. You hit two $1 royals and they paid you $4k each." They figure you woulda been playing anyway.
Or another case is something where the casino changes a promotion halfway through (illegally, the way the promo is set up). Perhaps if you hit 2 royals in a week you get $500 bonus. 3 royals you get $1000 bonus. 4 royals you get $2k bonus. And 5 royals gets you $25k bonus. Once you get to the 4'th royal, casino says the game you're playing is no longer eligible. Of course, gaming being most likely retarded, say "casino can change the promo whenever they want!" Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if gaming said the player had to refund the $3500 bonus since the promo has been changed.
And I think we've all been in a situation where a supervisor illegally backed up a card (or tried to) or do something else that's against the gaming regulations. Hell, one floor person I used to work with said, "casinos are private businesses. We don't even have to cash out player's chips if we don't want to."
Part of it is uneducation. Part is ignorance. But it all comes down to greed, which causes uneducation and ignorance in the casino/management.
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