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    stocks

    i'm sorry, i will tend to leave stock conversations alone.

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    It was a funny thread. The blind, paralyzed and deaf trying to act like they need to lead a bat in the dark. At some point the topic took a turn and someone shifted it from the worst time to be in the market to when to invest. These are opposite things. The buying opportunities are when things crash. too many follow the trend which will get you killed often enough. When buying (or selling) you want to be a contrarian.

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    The best stock conversation we ever had here on this forum was ZK's ELTP stock tips thread, oh god, what a doozy.

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    It is in the tank now. It was 14 the last I looked. The whole sector had a bad year. He got out at some point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    One of the things I respect about you is you have your own ideas and blaze your own path. You don't jump on bandwagons. Definately a wolf and not a sheep. Major kudos.

    Take your vitamins and say your prayers. Lol
    I've been taking them with plenty of Vitamin C lately. As with my "business" of being in the casinos 24/7, I was bound to catch the cold going round :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    Huh? I'm not understanding your metaphors. Say what it is you are trying to say in plain English. I feel like Ryemo.
    You are the metaphor man. You figure it out. I have the same problem with most of your posts.

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    You are clueless. You had one guy that was blind but it there was no light anyway so he was fumbling around like he does all the time. Another was paralyzed so he couldn't feel his way around in the dark. The deaf guy couldn't hear the others in the dark or see what their lips might be saying. They were all equally lost while they tried to tell the bat, who could "see" in pitch black and navigate just like it was broad daylight, how to get around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    So you have all the answers by talking to bats. That's bat shit crazy.
    I didn't participate in the tread. I have picked up a few things about playing the market but I am a ploppy there. I wouldn't presume to give anyone advice, especially the bat.

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    Round 2 ding ding ding

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    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    Ex. I listed the returns for each month this century on a spreadsheet. January 2016 - 5.07%, 2015 - 3.10%, 2014 - 3.43%, 2013 5.04, 2012 4.25, 2011 2.27, 2010 - 3.82%, 2009 - 8.54%, 2008 - 6.09%.
    As you can see, significant loss occurred 6 out of the last 9 years. February 2009 -10.69% was the worst loss since 2009. January was the 2nd worst.

    The worst two were first two months of a Presidential change. In 2001 February - 9.23%, March - 6.42%.

    The upcoming year 2017 will mark just the 3rd time this century a new President takes office. The Dow has tripled since the low in 2009.

    Oddly, the Dow futures dropped nearly 900 points on Election night but recovered the next day with a 257 point gain. It's continued to hit new highs.

    History indicates downside volatilty in times of uncertainty. I'm not saying history will repeat. I am saying I'm in position to take full advantage if/when it does.
    That's an interesting take, because if we had used the last 50 years of evidence to invest around the election, historically speaking, you'd have wanted to get out of something like the S&P and into bonds for a few months (starting prior to the results) while the tumultuous market returned to normal. Someone like Don might have suggested that to us because it has been a historical "thing" for decades now. "Too big to fail" he'd say.

    Meanwhile, not pulling out of the S&P and dumping into Bonds prior to the election, I've continued to have a very, very Black year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    Glad to hear your dollars are doing well. I bought at the right time, so this run provided all I could want and more than I need. So I moved 100% bond position a couple of months ago.

    The decisions made in blackjack are with colored chips. Stock market stakes are 6 figure choices. So its prudent to think for yourself as opposed to fly off half cocked on the advice (or emotion) of an analysts. Chris Mathews would've had us all buying houses in Canada on Election night. Hell, he even had me about to the point of calling Freighter to see about renting a room.

    My style has always been to go in when others are coming out and come out when everyone is going in.
    Buying in August 2008 would've been just the opposite of 1998 for following months. September 2O08 -9.56%, October 2008 -16.79, November 2008 - 7.48%, January 2009 - 8 54%, February 2009 - 10.69%. Whew! I'm glad I didn't take that bats advice.
    Good news for the Canadians though, they didn't get our unwanted celebrity castoffs vowing to move to Canada if Trump won.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exoter175 View Post
    Good news for the Canadians though, they didn't get our unwanted celebrity castoffs vowing to move to Canada if Trump won.
    You mean I voted for Trump for nothing. I thought all it would take was enough people voting trump and the would be gone. I had a big campaign to get the immigration started in all the blue wall states. It worked in most of them. They cost Hilary the election. People showed up in droves to get those celebs to move to the Great White North. I guess the joke is on them. LoL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exoter175 View Post
    Good news for the Canadians though, they didn't get our unwanted celebrity castoffs vowing to move to Canada if Trump won.
    Keep the wing nuts. While you're at it, take our pm too.

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